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[CALL TO ORDER]

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I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[PRESENTATION(S)]

I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR A PRESENTATION AND A PROCLAMATION.

WE HAVE A BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.

I SEE WE HAVE OUR FRIENDS HERE FROM THE LUMBER YARD.

IF YOU'D COME ON UP AND JOIN US.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

GREAT TO SEE YOU.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE RECIPIENT OF THE PROCLAMATION TODAY? ALL RIGHT.

IS EVERYBODY READY FOR OUR PROCLAMATION? WHEREAS ENSIGN LUMBER OPERATES WITH A CLEAR MISSION TO SERVE OTHERS WITH EXCELLENCE AND INTEGRITY WHILE BUILDING STRONGER COMMUNITIES, A PHILOSOPHY THAT ALIGNS WITH THE VALUES OF THE CITY OF DECATUR AND ITS CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS ENSIGN LUMBER ENTERED INTO THE DECATUR COMMUNITY IN 2023 THROUGH THE PURCHASE OF DECATUR LUMBER FROM THE TRACHTA FAMILY, CONTINUING A LEGACY OF MORE THAN 44 YEARS OF SERVICE ENCOMPASSING 22,200 SQUARE FEET ON EIGHT ACRES LOCATED ON 901 US HIGHWAY 380 BUSINESS.

WHEREAS ENSIGN LUMBER, UPON BEGINNING OPERATIONS, EMPLOYED 17 MEMBERS AND HAS SINCE GROWN TO 19 TEAM MEMBERS LOCALLY, DEMONSTRATING STRONG INVESTMENT IN JOB CREATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

AND WHEREAS OVER MORE THAN 53 YEARS OF OPERATIONS IN THE GREATER FORT WORTH AREA, ENSIGN LUMBER HAS SERVED THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS AND ESTABLISHED ITSELF AS A TRUSTED LEADER IN THE LUMBER AND BUILDING MATERIALS INDUSTRY.

AND WHEREAS ENSIGN LUMBER HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS AWARDS AND RECOGNITIONS, MULTIPLE ACKNOWLEDGMENTS THROUGH THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, INCLUSION IN THE LBM JOURNAL TOP 100 LUMBER YARDS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND NATIONAL RECOGNITION OF TWO TEAM MEMBERS IN 2025.

THEREFORE, I, MIKE MCQUISTON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DECATUR, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MONDAY, FEBRUARY 9TH, AS HINSON LUMBER DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF HINSON LUMBER? FANTASTIC.

JUST SAY IT RIGHT HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS HONOR. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE PEOPLE REAL QUICK HERE THAT CAME OUT.

CASEY WALLACE.

HE MANAGES EVERYTHING, OH THERE WE GO, NOW IT DOES.

HE MANAGES EVERYTHING LUMBER FOR US, SO OUR CRESCENT YARD THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 53 YEARS, AS WELL AS THE DECATUR YARD AND EVERYTHING MILLWORK RELATED.

AND ALBERTO, RIGHT THERE, RAISE YOUR HAND ALBERTO.

HE MANAGES THE STORE HERE LOCALLY IN DECATUR, LONG TIME BRIDGEPORT, DECATUR PERSON.

RON, WHO ACCEPTED THE PROCLAMATION, IS OUR SALESMAN EXTRAORDINAIRE.

AND I THINK SEVERAL OF YOU KNOW BETHANY, WHO IS OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVENTS PERSON THAT GOES AROUND AND DOES ALL THIS FUN STUFF.

AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU GUYS WERE GREAT HELPING US GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THE CITY WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH. WAYNE, VERY MUCH, VERY HELPFUL.

WE RAN INTO A LOT OF ROADBLOCKS AND WAYNE WAS VERY GOOD ABOUT WALKING US THROUGH THEM.

NATE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP AS WELL. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR.

CASEY, DO YOU WANT TO? THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES IN THIS AREA, WHERE WE'RE IN THE FORT WORTH AREA.

BROCK, ALEDO, WEATHERFORD, STEPHENVILLE, YOU KNOW, ALL GROWING AREAS.

AND DECATUR FITS THAT MOLD FOR US.

I MEAN, WE'RE VERY HONORED TO BE

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IN THIS AREA AND THE GROWTH, YOU GUYS, IT'S JUST GREAT FOR US.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADD EMPLOYEES AND GROW WITH YOU GUYS.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

YEAH, I GOT THE 6-7 OUT OF THAT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? OH, GOTCHA.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MISS SUSIE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? MAYOR MIKE, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK? SO I'M A BIG 95.9 THE RANCH LISTENER.

OKAY.

AND I CAN'T DO THE METAL MAN IMPERSONATION.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ON THAT INTERSECTION OF CRESCENT AND 377 AND 171, THOSE COMMERCIALS RESONATE.

SO WE'LL JUMP ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

[2. RECEIVE OUTSIDE AUDIT REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE DISTRIBUTION. ]

GREAT JOB, SOCIAL MEDIA.

YEAH. OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY. SO SUSIE SAYS NOBODY ON ITEM 1.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 2, RECEIVE OUTSIDE AUDIT REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025.

THERE'S JOSH RIGHT THERE.

HE'LL LET JOSH GIVE YOU THE REPORT.

THANKS, JOSH.

ALL RIGHT.

JEFF, THANK YOU.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

I'M JOSH FINLEY.

I'M THE LEAD AUDIT AND CASE EXECUTIVE.

THIS IS YOUR OUTSOURCED AUDITOR OR EXTERNAL AUDITOR.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

AND IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IF YOU OPENED ALL THESE.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE HIGH LEVEL FOR YOU ALL AND GIVE YOU ALL THE RESULTS.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO BE QUICK AND NOT HAVE TOO MUCH UTTER TALKING.

MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GOT A WATER.

A FEW THINGS.

I'LL FIRST START WITH THE SCOPE OF OUR AUDIT AND THEN THE RESULTS, WHICH I KNOW YOU ALL WANT TO HEAR.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO REQUIRE COMMUNICATIONS TO ADD YOUR AUDITOR, AS THE EXTERNAL AUDITOR, TO SHARE WITH OUR GOVERNANCE, WHICH IS CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN I HAVE A FEW.

IT CAN'T BE AN ACCOUNTING PRESENTATION IF I DON'T GIVE YOU ALL A FEW ACCOUNTING LAWS AND RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE THAT ME AND JEN WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH COME THIS SUMMER.

BUT FIRST, WITH THE OVERALL RESULTS, WE DID ISSUE OUR FINANCIALS LAST MONTH.

YOU ALL PAID US TO RENDER AN OPINION ON THESE FINANCIALS.

AGAIN, IT'S THE FIRST FEW PAGES OF THE REPORT.

IT'S A LONG REPORT.

IT'S ON THE LETTERHEAD.

YOU ALL DID RECEIVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION.

IS THIS NOT WORKING? SORRY.

YOU KNOW, PULSE FOR TECHNOLOGY INDICATOR.

IS THAT WORKING BETTER NOW? OKAY.

YOU ALL DID RECEIVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION.

AND SO IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, THAT'S A CLEAN OPINION.

AUDIT WANTS TO BE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION.

ABSOLUTE OPINION.

OPINIONS YOU CAN RECEIVE, THAT IS THE BEST ONE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I CAN GET OUT OF YOUR REPORT CARD.

SO KUDOS TO YOUR TEAM, TO YOUR FINANCE TEAM, FOR GETTING AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON THIS.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO OUR AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS IN AMERICA.

THAT BASICALLY TELLS US THAT YOUR FINANCIALS HAVE TO BE UP-TO-DATE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES IN AMERICA.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN STATED THAT YOU ALL ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE STANDARDS.

WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

EVERY ENTITY, EVERY CITY IN PARTICULAR, ADOPTS THEIR OWN ACCOUNTING POLICY.

THERE'S NO ONE DEFINED IN CONGRESS.

AND EVERYONE READS THOSE.

WE READ THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UP-TO-DATE.

YOU ALL WERE REQUIRED TO ADOPT A NEW STANDARD, A GABA STANDARD, WHICH I'LL GO OVER HERE IN A SECOND.

THESE ARE NEW STANDARDS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.

THE GOVERNOR OF MANOA COUNTY STANDARD BOARD, THAT'S THE OVERSIGHT BODY FOR GOVERNMENT, FINANCE, MUNICIPALITIES, ET CETERA.

ANYONE WHO RECEIVES FEDERAL FUNDING, IT DID ISSUE A NEW STANDARD THIS YEAR, GABA 101.

WE DID ADOPT THAT.

IT IS UPDATED IN THOSE FINANCIAL TERMS. THERE'S NO MATERIAL EFFECT TO THE FINANCIALS.

YOU ALL ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY RECORDING.

THEY CAN ACCRUE VACATION LEAVE FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S WHAT GABA 101 REQUIRED ALL CITIES TO DO ACROSS ALL OF AMERICA.

YOU ALL ALREADY WERE DOING THAT, SO THERE WAS REALLY NO EFFECT.

THERE'S NO UNUSUAL ACCOUNTING POLICIES TO POINT OUT.

THERE WAS NO ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTING AGREEMENTS.

IF THERE WAS ANY DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT, I WOULD TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE HAD DISAGREEMENTS.

NOTHING REALLY MAJOR POPPED UP THAT WE WEREN'T DOING WHAT WE WERE ALL ABOUT DURING THE AUDIT.

IT WAS AN AUDIT THAT WE WORKED WITH THE STAFF ON, SO IT WAS A REALLY GOOD JOB, AND WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THEM ON EVERYTHING.

AND THEN LASTLY, AND I'LL BE BRIEF ON THESE.

I KNOW THEY CAN BE SOMEWHAT BORING, BUT THERE ARE SOME FUTURE POLICIES THAT ARE COMING

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DOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE STATEMENT 103.

WHEN I STARTED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, I GRADUATED IN 2015, SO I'M GOING ON 11 YEARS.

WE WERE AT GADC 60.

NOW WE'RE ALL THE WAY UP TO GADC 103, SO THEY GET TO THREE OR FOUR STANDARDS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, ALMOST MY WHOLE CAREER, WHICH IS KIND OF A LOT, AND THEY HAVE NO PLANS ON SLOWING DOWN, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR US.

SORRY, BUT WE GO TO THE CONFERENCES, AND WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THE NEW STANDARDS THEY HAVE TO ADOPT.

THERE ARE TWO COMING UP FOR THIS NEXT YEAR I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE, AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH WITH BEN TO MAKE SURE YOUR FINANCIALS ARE DONE PROPERLY, BUT GADC 103 FINANCIAL REPORTING MODEL, THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE DISPLAYED IN THE FINANCIALS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A MATERIAL EFFECT ON ANY OF THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IN THE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL WORK WITH THAT, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

GADC 104 IS ALSO GOING TO BE APPLICABLE FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

CAPITAL ASSETS, IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SET UP THE FINANCIALS FOR, BUT ACTUAL ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CALENDAR.

AND THEN LASTLY, THIS ONE'S TWO YEARS AWAY, SUBSEQUENT EVENTS.

THIS IS THE LAST FOOTNOTE IN ALL FINANCIALS.

IT'S REALLY JUST TO SAY, TELL THE READERS, FINANCIALS, ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED AFTER THE SUBSEQUENT, THE DATE THAT WAS PUT UNDER AUDITS.

WE AUDITED AT 9-3-25.

ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN 9-3-25 AND RIGHT NOW WOULD BE A SUBSEQUENT EVENT.

FOR YOU ALL, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ONE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT OF LAST MONTH.

THAT'S A KEY ITEM THAT THE FINANCIALS NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE READING.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER STANDARD THAT WAS OUT, BUT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY ADDED THAT TO THE FINANCIALS.

THAT'S THE UPDATE, SHORT AND SWEET.

SO IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS DOES HAVE AN ACTION AND DISTRIBUTION COMMENT, SO STAND BY FOR A MOTION.

MR. MAYOR? MR. MAYOR? OH, YOU'RE GREEN.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE 2024-2025 OUTSIDE AUDIT REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25 AS READ AND AUTHORIZED TO DISTRIBUTION.

SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

[3. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER TESTIMONY REGARDING THE CREATION OF THE LIBERTAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NO. 1. ]

THAT ITEM PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL OPEN ITEM THREE FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT 6-12, AND THIS IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER TESTIMONY REGARDING THE CREATION OF THE LIBERTAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE REPORT WILL ACTUALLY COME WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR IMPACTED.

JUST A REMINDER, LAST TIME WE WERE ALL TOGETHER, WE GAVE NOTICE OF THIS ITEM.

THE APPROPRIATE MECHANISM FOR CREATION OF THE BID IS A RESOLUTION.

IT'S A KICKOFF EVENT THAT WILL TRIGGER THIS WONDERFUL LIBERTAS PROJECT FOR A BUSINESS ROUTE NORTH OF HIGHWAY 380 AND GENERALLY WEST OF FM 1714.

IT HAS A VALUE OF WORTH OF $32 MILLION.

WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ALL THE VALUES.

THIS ALLOWS FOR ANYBODY, PUBLIC OR THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

STAND BY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF WANT TO MAKE A REPORT? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP IN PUBLIC TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL? ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AT 6-14.

NOW, YOU SAID THIS.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER ACTIONS ON ITEM THREE? THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

[4. CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE LIBERTAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NO. 1 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE; PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. RESOLUTION R2026-02-04]

SO MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR IS THIS IS CONSIDERED TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING OR CREATING THE LIBERTAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU SAID YOUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LIBERTAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

SO ITEM FOUR IS A RESOLUTION THAT SUPPORTS THE CREATION OF THE LIBERTAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

AND IT BEGINS IN YOUR PACKET ON PAGE FOUR.

A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION.

YOUR ITEM ON PAGE FIVE, IT'S MARKED AS PAGE TWO ON THE RESOLUTION.

ESTIMATED COSTS, THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS, $32 MILLION.

AND THE ITEM IMMEDIATELY ABOVE THAT IS B, ESTITUTIONAL NATURE AND AUTHORIZATION OF THE IMPROVEMENT.

SO COUNCIL, I KNOW THESE ARE NOT UNUSUAL OR NEW TO YOU.

BUT ANYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING

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THIS MIDSTREAM OR PICKS IT UP AT A LATER POINT IN TIME, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR AN ASSESSMENT LEVY PER LIVING PARCEL TO BE PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

WATER LINES, FIRE HYDRANTS, ROADS, SEWER LINES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND ITEM B THERE ON PAGE FIVE, THAT GIVES US MUCH LONGER DETAIL THAN WHAT I HAVE JUST GIVEN YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THOSE FEW WORDS HERE BEFORE YOU TOOK OFFICE TO ACT ON THIS RESOLUTION.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.

BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS FAIRLY ROUTINE AT THIS POINT IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

LOOK FOR A MOTION.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2026-02-04.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED?

[5. CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO WAIVE CERTAIN PERMITTING AND BUILDING FEES FOR REPAIR TO PROPERTY DAMAGE RESULTING FROM THE SEVERE WEATHER ICE EVENT WHICH OCCURRED JANUARY 23 TO JANUARY 30, 2026. RESOLUTION R2026-02-05 ]

ALL RIGHT, THAT ITEM PASSES.

ITEM FIVE, CONSIDER TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO WAIVE CERTAIN PERMIT AND BUILDING FEES FOR REPAIR OF PROPERTY DAMAGE RESULTING FROM THE SEVERE STORM WEATHER EVENT, WHICH OCCURRED JANUARY 23RD TO JANUARY 30TH, 2026.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ITEM FIVE IS A WAIVER THAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY.

YOU MAY RECALL WE'VE HAD LARGE HAIL EVENTS.

WE'VE HAD STRAIGHT LINE WIND EVENTS.

AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE STEPS HISTORICALLY TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS THAT ALLOWED US TO WAIVE THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

WE'RE ASKING THE RESIDENTS TO FOLLOW THE PROCESSES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OFFICE.

BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO WAIVE THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PROCESSES SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN RETURN TO NORMAL.

IT'S PRETTY STANDARD IN THE RECOVERY PROCESS.

RARELY DECENT AMOUNT OF DAMAGE WITH THIS ICE STORM.

ICE AND SNOW CAN BECOME PRETTY HEAVY QUICKLY.

A NUMBER OF CARPORTS THAT WERE DAMAGED.

WE PUT SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THE FRIDAY REPORT FOR YOU TO CHECK OUT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT ITEM FIVE'S ABOUT.

AND IT'S DONE BY RESOLUTION.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

VERY GOOD.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-20-26-02-05.

SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THAT ITEM PASSES.

[6. DISCUSSION REGARDING IMPACT FEES AND POTENTIAL FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO IMPACT FEES. ]

ITEM SIX, DISCUSSION REGARDING IMPACT FEES AND POTENTIAL FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO IMPACT FEES.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH HISTORICALLY.

I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING FROM THIS DOCUMENT THAT SHOULD BE AT YOUR SEAT.

FEEL FREE TO MARK ALL OVER THIS.

THIS IS A COPY OF WHAT YOU RECEIVED IN DECEMBER OF 2024 WHEN WE APPROVED ALL THESE IMPACT FEES.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO-PART DISCUSSION.

AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR ANYTHING TO BE SOLVED TONIGHT.

BUT WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

WHEN I SAY WE, I'M SPEAKING TO STAFF IN GENERAL.

BUT WAYNE AND I ARE GOING TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT IMPACT FEES.

IF YOU REMEMBER, EARLY IN 2024, WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE WITH OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES.

AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE DETERMINED THAT WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE IMPACT FEES FOR ROADWAYS.

AND SO WE WORKED WITH OUR PARTNERS IN KINGSPORT.

WE WORKED WITH ANOTHER CONSULTANT.

AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A MUCH LONGER DOCUMENT THAN THIS.

IT'S ONLY A COUPLE PAGES.

BUT THIS WAS THE BRIEF THAT WAS GIVEN IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE WALKED THROUGH APPROVING WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES.

AND THOSE WERE ALLOWED TO GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE STANDING ALREADY.

IN THAT SAME EVENING, WE ALSO APPROVED ROAD IMPACT FEES.

AND THOSE HAD A, FOR LACK OF MORE APPROPRIATE TERMS, THEY HAD A COOLING OFF PERIOD, A WAITING PERIOD, IF YOU WILL, OF ONE CALENDAR YEAR.

SO THAT MEANT THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2025, ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WOULD BEGIN TO BE FALLING ON TOP OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WITH AT THE MOMENT.

AND IN THAT DISCUSSION, WE TALKED THROUGH THE ENTRY POINT ON THESE FEES.

AND THERE'S SOME VARIABLES THAT WAYNE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

BUT I WANT TO UNPACK REAL QUICKLY THIS DOCUMENT.

SO GO WITH ME TO PAGE 8 IF YOU DON'T MIND.

BUT IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 8, YOU SEE KIND OF THE MAXIMUM FEE.

AND BEFORE YOUR ACTION IN DECEMBER OF 2024, WATER HAD AN IMPACT FEE OF $856.

WASTEWATER HAD AN IMPACT FEE OF $1,378.

AND THERE WERE NO ROADWAYS.

THROUGH OUR MANY MEETINGS

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TO DEAL WITH IMPACT FEES AND GET THEM UP TO A MORE APPROPRIATE, MORE COMPETITIVE RANGE, WE DECIDED ON WATER AND WASTEWATER IN THE NEXT COLUMN OVER.

SO WATER BEING $4,780, WASTEWATER BEING $9,078, AND NOW A ROADWAY BEING ADDITIONAL $13,000.

SO I THINK WHAT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE MAY BE, AND WAYNE WILL GIVE A MUCH MORE DETAILED ON THIS, I THINK OUR TOTAL STACK ON FEES COULD BE A LITTLE HIGH.

AND WE LEFT THIS CONVERSATION LAST IN 2024 SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME BACK TO THAT AT SOME POINT AND DEAL WITH IT.

SO THIS IS ME SAYING, HERE WE ARE TO COME BACK AND DEAL WITH IT.

WHAT I'D LIKE TONIGHT IS JUST A REAL OPEN CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT US TO GO.

IT'S MY VISION THAT WE TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THAT SUBCOMMITTEE THAT YOU HAVEN'T COME TO.

WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT YOUR DESIRES FOR WHERE WE SHOULD BE AT ON ALL THESE FEES.

AND THEN WE'LL GET THEM TO SUBMIT A WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO RIGHT NOW IS JUST PAUSE AND ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO WAYNE FOR A LITTLE BIT DEEPER DIVE.

WELL, I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO WHAT'S FAIR AND REASONABLE.

I ALSO FEEL THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WANTS TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT COME IN THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT HELP PAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

YES, SIR.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST STAND BY FOR WAYNE.

VERY GOOD.

AND AS WAYNE'S MAKING HIS WAY UP, I WOULD SAY TO STAFF, AND AS A RESIDENT, WE AGREE WITH YOU THAT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PAY FOR DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WE'VE HAD A CRITICAL POINT IN DECATUR WHERE WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T PRESS DEVELOPMENT OUT OF DECATUR.

SO I THINK THERE'S A BALANCING SCENARIO WE NEED TO WALK THROUGH HERE.

AND I THINK THAT'LL MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE AS WAYNE DIVES FURTHER INTO THE DETAILS.

SO WAYNE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAN.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING.

MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT STARTS OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE ADOPTION AND THE CURRENT IMPACT FEES WHERE THEY WERE ADOPTED IN 2014.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CALCULATION AND APPLICATION OF THE CURRENT WAGE IMPACT FEES AND HOW THEY'RE APPLIED.

AND END UP WITH SOME REAL-WORLD EXAMPLES OF HOW THESE ARE BEING APPLIED.

AS THEY TALKED ABOUT A WHILE AGO, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN DECEMBER 23RD OF 2024.

AND THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE CHANGES WERE ADOPTED.

AND WE EXPECT IMMEDIATELY THAT THEY WERE ESTABLISHED.

ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE ADOPTED FOR THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS.

ACCURATE IMPLEMENTATION.

AND SO THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE COLLECTED PRIOR TO THAT DECEMBER 23RD, 2024, THEY WERE PAID ONE YEAR IN GRACE PERIOD AS WELL FOR APPLYING THOSE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE EFFECTIVE FOR ANY ELIGIBLE PROPERTY PLOTTED AFTER DECEMBER 23RD, 2024.

AND THEN ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE CHARGED TO ALL ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES AFTER DECEMBER 23RD, 2025.

THAT ONE YEAR WAITING PERIOD.

IMPACT FEES ARE CALCULATED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT.

AND THEY ARE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT FEE.

WASTEWATER AND METER FEES WERE REVISED AND SCHEDULED AND UPDATED.

ANY QUESTIONS ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE ADOPTION? SO THIS IS AN EXCERPT STRAIGHT OUT OF OUR PIECE.

AND I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT'S THE SECOND PAGE.

THE FIRST PAGE IS THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FEE.

THE SECOND PAGE, IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE PIECE, YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS THAT I HAVE UP THERE.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN PARTICULAR AND HOW THEY ARE APPLIED TO POPULATE THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

ON THAT FAR LEFT-HAND SIDE, THERE'S A LAND USE CATEGORY.

AND SO THIS IS ESTABLISHED BY THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION HERE, THIRD GENERATION MANAGEMENT.

AND IT BREAKS DOWN DEVELOPMENT INTO DIFFERENT HEADINGS.

AND SO THAT GREEN HIGHLIGHTED

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AREA THAT YOU SEE THERE, IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO 12 CATEGORIES.

AND SEVERAL OTHER MAIN HEADINGS THAT ARE IN THERE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BLUE BACKGROUND ON THERE, EACH ONE OF THOSE MAIN HEADINGS IS DIVIDED INTO THREE CATEGORIES.

THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE THERE.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL.

YOU HAVE THE SUBCATEGORIES OF GENERAL LIFE, INDUSTRIAL, OR WAREHOUSING.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK FURTHER DOWN IN THE OFFICE LAND USE CATEGORY, YOU SEE IT HAS SUBCATEGORIES FOR GENERAL OFFICE BUILDING, MEDICAL OFFICE, DENTAL OFFICE BUILDING, OFFICE BUILDING, AND SO ON AND SO ON.

SO EACH ONE'S BROKEN DOWN INTO A CATEGORY AND A SUBCATEGORY THAT WE FIRST DETERMINE IN CHARGING THE FEES.

IF YOU MOVE OVER TO THE HEADING THAT SAYS DEVELOPMENT UNIT, THIS PROVIDES THE UNIT THAT THE IMPACT FEE IS BASED ON.

SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES, IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE OFFICE HEADING ON THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE OFFICE, INDUSTRIAL, DINING, AND OTHER RETAIL HAS THE LAND USE CATEGORY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT DEVELOPMENT UNIT FOR EACH OF THOSE IS 01,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.

SO 1,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA THAT CREATES A DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

RESIDENTIAL IS A DWELLING.

IT IS A SINGLE DWELLING IS THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

WHERE UNDER THAT SAME CATEGORY OF RESIDENTIAL, YOU'LL FIND THIS LIVING.

THAT ONE, THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT ON THAT IS THE NUMBER OF BEDS IN THAT BUILDING.

GOING TO RECREATIONAL, YOU SEE THE MOVIE THEATERS, THE DEVELOPMENT UNITS, THE NUMBER OF SCREENS THAT ARE ON THERE.

ANYTHING LIKE IT IS THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT AND THE NUMBER OF COURTS THAT ARE IN THERE.

FURTHER DOWN THE INSTITUTIONAL, THE CHURCHES ARE BROKE OUT BY SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA WHILE STUDENTS ARE BASED IN THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD STUDENTS IN THAT SCHOOL.

SO MOVING ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE RIGHT WITH THE MAX FEE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT INSTEAD OF MAX FEE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS THE MAX FEE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

THE MAXIMUM DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT CAN BE ASSESSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

A FORMULA THAT'S PUT OUT BY THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS BASED ON THE LAND USE AND THE TRIPS, COURT VEHICLE MILES, AND THE GENERATION MILEAGE.

THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM FEE THAT COULD BE CHARGED ON THAT.

IF YOU MOVE TO THE CENTER COLUMN, THE PERCENTAGE OF MAXIMUM COLLECTED WAS WHERE THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THE AMOUNT OF THAT FEE THAT WE WANTED TO CHARGE IN OUR PRESENTATION.

AND AT THAT TIME, IN ALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS SET AT $100,000.

THE COLLECTION RATE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S $27,800 DIVIDED BY 2.

60% IS $30,900.

AND THAT IS THE COLLECTION RATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT THAT WE USED.

WE WERE POPULATED WITH THIS FEE.

I DO HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF AN EXAMPLE ON THIS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND WE SEE THAT IF WE TAKE A LAND USE CATEGORY, AND IN THIS EXAMPLE, WE USED AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT LAND USE SUBCATEGORY, WHICH WOULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.

WE SEE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT FOR THAT IS 1,000 SQUARE FEET PER BUILDING.

SO IT'S A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING DIVIDED BY THE 1,000 SQUARE FOOT.

THAT COMES OUT TO 50,000.

IF YOU TAKE THAT MAX FEE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT, THE MAX FEE IS $5,043.

50% OF THAT IS $2,500.

IF YOU TAKE THAT AND MULTIPLY IT BY THE COLLECTION RATE, AND YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT OF 50, YOU COME OUT WITH $126,100 AS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FOR A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

GO ON TO, BEFORE WE DO THAT, ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? CONTINUE, PLEASE.

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SO THE REAL WORLD EXAMPLES, THESE ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF DECATUR AND WALKING THROUGH.

01,500 DISTANCE PER DRIVE.

THE BUILDING HAS TO BE CLEANED IN.

AND IT IS 10,300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THE TOP SET OF NUMBERS IS WHAT GOES IN 2024 BEFORE THE REVISION.

SO WE HAD A TWO METER PLAN THAT WOULD COME OUT TO THE WATER IMPACT FEE OF $10,860.

AND THEN THE ONE METRIC METER WOULD APPLY TO THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE OF $2,297.

AND IT'S THE IMPACT FEE OF $5,130.

THE SAME DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE AND PROPERTY SCHEDULE.

WE HAVE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES NOW.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY 2024 EXAMPLES.

IT IS A 1,000 SQUARE FOOT EXPOSED FLOOR AREA.

WE DO ABOUT 50% OF CLEAN COLLECTION.

AND THE MAXIMUM IS $11,040.

IT DOES FALL INTO THE OFFICE, MEDICAL, AND BOTH OFFICE CATEGORIES.

AND IT IS A 20 YARD COLLECTION ZONE.

THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE IS $297,690.

WE HAVE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES ON THE FLOOR.

WE HAVE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES ON THE FLOOR.

IT'S $760,000.

WE HAVE 11 BUILDINGS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S OUT THERE IN THE OFFICE.

THIS IS FOR BUILDING THREE OF THAT.

THIS IS LIKE THE 2024 IMPACT FEE.

AND THE BOTTOM NUMBER IS ADDING IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

THEY ARE CALCULATED AT OFFICE LEVEL.

IS THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT OFF OF THAT? OR IS IT A CATEGORY? IS THE LAND USE COLLECTION UNIT? WALK DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

BECAUSE THOSE SAME TRIPS THAT GO INTO THAT MAY USE MULTIPLE OFFICES.

AND THEN THAT'S WHERE IT'S COLLECTED ON THAT.

SO IT COMES DOWN TO $860,000, $870,000, $880,000, $880,000.

AS OF NOW, THIS 19-YEAR-OLD PROPERTY HAS 11 BUILDINGS.

WE'LL PULL THAT UP.

THERE'S 11 BUILDINGS ON THERE.

AND THAT'S THE IMPACT FEES.

ALL 11 BUILDINGS ENDED UP AT JUST UNDER $800,000.

VERY GOOD.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MORE SLIDES LIKE THIS.

I HAVE ONE MORE RESIDENTIAL ONE HERE.

2024 IMPACT FEES WITH NO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

THE MEDIAN IS OBVIOUS AT THE TOP.

SO THE IMPACT FEE IS $1,234.

AND THEN THE SAME THING ON THE BOTTOM.

IT WAS ADOPTED AT 100% OF THE IMPACT FEE.

AFTER THAT, IT WAS $1,277.

AND NOW THE IMPACT FEES COME OUT ENDING UP AT $1,277.

VARIABLES THAT COME UP WITH FEES.

AND YOU SHOWED US EXAMPLES OF CHANGE BETWEEN PAST AND CURRENT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? THERE'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT ON THAT.

BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.

YES.

IT'S VERY DYNAMIC.

AND IT IS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OK.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, FAIR ENOUGH.

WELL, YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU'VE DEFINITELY IDENTIFIED QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

AND THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS TO WEIGH HERE.

THERE'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER THAT I COULD GIVE YOU IN THIS VERY MOMENT.

JUST SAY, YES, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO.

THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS WE BEGIN TO FOLLOW ALONG.

WHAT WE DO KNOW, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF REMINDERS HERE IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME.

WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND THEY'RE NOT SAYING, NO, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN

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DECATUR.

THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY SAYING, MAN, DECATUR.

WE WENT FROM A VERY CHEAP ENTRY INTO THE DECATUR MARKET TO A VERY STEEP ENTRY INTO THE DECATUR MARKET.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PAUSE GOING ON THERE.

AND THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS STALL OUT THESE PROCESSES IN THE STREAM, BECAUSE THESE PARTNERS HAVE ALREADY INVESTED THOUSANDS, IF NOT MILLIONS, INTO THE PROJECTS.

WE WANT TO KEEP THEM MOVING ALONG.

NONETHELESS, WE HAVE PROCESSES.

SO A COUPLE OF REMINDERS HERE.

WHEN WE TALK THROUGH THE TOTALITY, WHY DID WAYNE'S DEPARTMENT PRESENT THIS? SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADMINISTERED THE BULK OF THE FEES RELATED TO THE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WHEN THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH A SET OF PLANS, THEY'LL GRAPPLE WITH THAT PROJECT ALMOST FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF CONCEPT TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S GOT A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN AND WORKING OUT OF THAT BUILDING.

SO THEY NOT ONLY HANDLE THE CIVIL PERMIT PROCESS, THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, BUT THEY ALSO APPLY THESE FEES.

THESE IMPACT FEES ACTUALLY ARE MORE OF A TOOL FOR PUBLIC WORK WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTAINING THE WATER WASTE WATER SYSTEM AND EVENTUALLY NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

SO JUST REMEMBER THAT WAYNE'S TEAM IS ADMINISTERING THESE FEES.

BUT REALLY, IT'S A PUBLIC WORKS TOOL.

I USE THE WORD MAINTAIN.

WE SHOULDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IMPACT FEES AS A MAINTENANCE TOOL.

IMPACT FEES ARE REALLY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WE GRAPPLED WITH THIS MOST NOTABLY ON THE LIBERTAS PROJECT WHERE THE IMPACT FEES WERE KIND OF KEY AT BRINGING ON A NEW NORTH SIDE SEWER TREATMENT PROCESS.

YOU GUYS ARE ALL AWARE OF WHERE WE'RE AT THERE.

IN THE FINANCE WORLD, THE IMPACT FEE ACCOUNT WILL BUILD YEAR OVER YEAR AS THESE PROJECTS COME AND GO.

AND AS WE GRAPPLE WITH NEW DEBTS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL ELEMENTS OF THE IMPACT FEES THAT HAVE BEEN PAID AND PARTNER THEM WITH AD VALOREM TAX TO PAY OUR DEBT OBLIGATION OR WATER SEWER REVENUES TO PAY OUR DEBT OBLIGATION.

SO THEY BECOME A SOURCE OF REVENUE SO LONG AS THEY WERE APPROVED, AND THIS PLAN HAS THE DETAILS ON IT, THEY WERE APPROVED IN THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR WATER AND OR WASTE WATER AND OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT.

JUST REMEMBER, AND FOR ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO THIS LATER, IMPACT FEES, SPECIFIC ROADWAYS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO REPAVE AN EXISTING STREET UNLESS WE'RE ALSO WIDENING THAT STREET AND ADDING DRAINAGE AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

PAUSE RIGHT THERE, I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE JUST THOUGHT-PROVOKING COMMENTS IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WELL, GO AHEAD AND GIVE US YOUR THOUGHT-PROVOKING IDEAS.

I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO MUCH.

WELL, YOU MAY PROVIDE THOUGHT-PROVOKING THAT WILL ANSWER A POTENTIAL QUESTION.

I UNDERSTAND.

SOMETIMES WHEN A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES TO US, NO MATTER IF IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, MULTI-FAMILY, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S IN PLAY, OFTEN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MAY POINT TO IMPACT FEE WAIVER OR CREDIT, OR MAYBE IT POINTS TO THE DEVELOPER PUTTING A PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND AND POINTING TO IT NOT HAVING TO PAY SOME OF THESE FEES.

BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS FOR CREDIT TO BE PRESENT, THESE FOLKS ARE ON THE HOOK FOR THE TOTALITY OF THESE FEES.

SO OUR CONCERN IS HAVING SOME NEW FEES AND SOME OLD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THOSE TWO ARE NOT SPEAKING WELL.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT PAM AND I GRAPPLE WITH, PUBLIC WORKS AND I GRAPPLE WITH.

I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU ALL TO ALSO BE THINKING THAT THROUGH.

SOMETIMES WE'RE DEALING WITH AN OLD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS DONE BEFORE ROADWAY FEES EVEN WERE ON THE TABLE.

AND THEN I GUESS MY LAST STATEMENT, REALLY IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION, HOW FAR DO YOU WANT US TO DIVE INTO THIS? WAYNE SPOKE FROM THIS SHEET RIGHT HERE A LOT, AND HE SPOKE ABOUT THE VARIOUS SUBCATEGORIES, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE COULD DIVE INTO EVERY ONE OF THOSE 66 LINES IF WE WANTED TO.

WHEN WE GET INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I GUESS SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU WOULD BE HELPFUL.

HOW DEEP IN DO YOU WANT US TO DIVE, IF YOU AGREE IN FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT TO CUT IN? I'LL PAUSE FOR FEEDBACK.

SURE.

WELL, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY LOOKING AT THE DATA WAYNE PRESENTED AND LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIOR TO OUR CHANGE AND AFTER THE CHANGE, THOSE ARE SOME DRAMATIC DIFFERENCES IN FEES AND IMPACT, TOTAL IMPACT FEES.

I KNOW THAT THE CONCEPT IS ABSOLUTELY

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FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THESE THINGS, THE IMPACT FEES TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS THAT COME INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MATCH UP.

I GUESS MY QUESTION FIRST OFF WOULD BE, AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF BEGINNING WITH THE VARIABLE PIECE, LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT UNIT SIDE.

MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE MOST OF THOSE ARE STANDARD WITH VERY SMALL VARIANCE FROM CITY TO CITY, BUT MAYBE I'M...

AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT COMES INTO THIS AND PLAYS INTO THIS COMES OUT OF THAT INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.

OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE STANDARD.

THOSE ARE STANDARD.

SO WE KNOW THAT THAT PART OF THE ALGEBRA FORMULA, THAT GETS US TO THE TOTAL COST OF IMPACT FEE.

SO THEN IT REALLY BECOMES THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE'RE APPLYING TOWARDS IT.

SO THEN IT'S WHAT IS FAIR AND REASONABLE PERCENTAGES FOR THE COST OF THESE THINGS TO BE IMPLEMENTED? YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER AS TO WHAT THE FAIR AND REASONABLE IS.

I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH AT LEAST CATEGORY IN THESE LAND USES TO DETERMINE WHERE WE WANT TO BE AT WITH THOSE, WHERE DECATUR WANTS TO GROW TOWARDS.

THIS CAN BE USED AS A TOOL TO CURB DEVELOPMENT IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION IF YOU CHOOSE TO.

IT CAN BE USED AS A TOOL TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION IF YOU CHOOSE TO.

YES.

SHOULD WE CONSIDER MAYBE HAVING A WORKSHOP TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN REALLY KIND OF REALLY DELVE INTO THIS? I LIKE WHAT WAYNE JUST SAID ABOUT WE CAN USE IT TO CONTROL OUR GROWTH.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WHERE I WANT TO GO AFTER TONIGHT IS TO THE CIC.

OBVIOUSLY, THE COUNCIL TEAM IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO ATTEND THAT MEETING.

IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

IF WE NEED TO HOST IT AT THE WORKSHOP, WE CAN TOTALLY DO THAT AS WELL.

THAT GROUP WILL ALLOW US TO DIVE FURTHER INTO THE SCENARIO.

YES.

WELL, I WOULD SAY JUST BASED ON I FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR YOU GUYS TO DEFINITELY EXAMINE THAT, RIGHT? SO PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND THEN I FEEL TO MELINDA'S, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS EITHER OR BE IN THE WAY OF THAT PROCESS.

IT'S PAINFUL TO SEE THE NUMBERS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SAT AND DIDN'T DO DUE DILIGENCE FOR HOW MANY YEARS EVER? AND WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND THE TIMES.

KIMBERLY HORN HAS A RECOMMENDATION, I'M SURE, AFTER LOOKING AT ALL THIS.

ANDREW'S WITH US TONIGHT, BUT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS GETTING A CALL ON THE SPOT.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

KIMBERLY HORN WARNED US WITH ROADWAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A RIPPLE, IF YOU WILL, NOT NECESSARILY A RIPPLE OF BAD, BUT IT'S A RIPPLE OF INCORRECT SCENARIO OF THOSE SPEEDS.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE CERTAINLY FEELING THAT RIPPLE.

ANDREW, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT IF YOU'D LIKE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT? YEAH, I THINK WE ALL, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE EXAMPLE WAYNE PROVIDED, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COST PERCENTAGE CHANGE WAS THROUGH THE ROAD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.

YEAH, I THINK JUST A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON THE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE TO USE, RIGHT? WATER, WASTEWATER, AND ROADWAYS.

WE'RE ALWAYS KEEPING THE END GOAL IN MIND OF WHAT ARE WE LOOKING TO DO.

SO WATER, WASTEWATER, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE CLEAN WATER, WASTEWATER SERVICE, AND REALLY, FOR Y'ALL WHAT THAT'S LOOKING LIKE IS CREATING A WATER PLANT, BUILDING A NEW WASTEWATER PLANT, REALLY EXPANDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IF WE KNOW, ASSUMING THAT'S A GOAL WE NEED TO ACHIEVE, WE NEED TO PROVIDE NEW SERVICE TO NEW RESIDENTS, NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN, THAT'S KIND OF A FIXED THING WE NEED TO CALL FOR, RIGHT? WE COME UP WITH COSTS, WE'VE GOT A TIMELINE FOR IT, AND THEN THE IMPACT FEES ARE CALCULATED TO BE THE FAIR SHARE OF EACH ONE OF THOSE UNITS COMING IN.

AND I THINK WAYNE DID A GREAT JOB OF HIGHLIGHTING THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.

I'LL TAKE THAT ONE STEP FURTHER JUST AS A REMINDER IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS HELPFUL THROUGH THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS,

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AND BASICALLY WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS, HERE'S OUR PROJECT COSTS, HERE'S THE IMPACT FEES WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS.

HALF OF THOSE COSTS, AND WHAT WAS REMAINING, THAT WENT INTO THE PROCEEDING STUDY, WHICH WAS A GREAT STUDY, RIGHT? AND SO IF WE CHANGE THE IMPACT FEES, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO ACHIEVE THAT END GOAL WITH THE SAME CAPACITY, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT STARTS TO HAVE RIPPLE EFFECTS AS WELL, RIGHT? SO IF WE WEREN'T THE STATE STANDARD, WE EITHER SERVE PEOPLE FRESH WATER OR YOU DON'T, OR YOU SERVE, YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER OR YOU DON'T.

THERE'S NOT VERY MANY LINES, YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN THAT.

YOU TAKE THAT TO THE ROADWAY AS WELL, RIGHT? IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE LEVELS OF CAPACITY ON OUR ROADWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC, IT'S SAFE, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S A VERY SIMILAR STORY IS WE DIAL BACK THE IMPACT FEES ON THAT.

NOW ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE MAP TO SERVE OUR CLIENTS PROVIDE THOSE CAPACITIES, BUT THOSE GET DELIMITED, RIGHT? AND SO BASICALLY THAT STARTS TO EQUATE TO MORE TRAFFIC OR WORSE LEVELS OF SERVICE.

SO THE RIPPLE EFFECT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT ULTIMATELY THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS THAT.

ULTIMATELY, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS BEING CALCULATED THE RATE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE HIGH BARS.

YOU CAN CHANGE OR YOU CAN MODIFY THE RIPPLE, BUT EITHER CHANGE THE RATE, LIKE I SAID, ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, OBVIOUSLY, OR IT PUSHES THE PROJECT FURTHER DOWN THE LINE AND LEVELS THE SERVICE.

VERY GOOD.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

WAYNE, QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO WE AS A COUNCIL VOTED ON AMENDING OR GIVING GRACE TO A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT BEING ADJUSTED.

SO ARE THERE ANY PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW THAT OBVIOUSLY THE FEES WOULD BE AFFECTED, BUT FOR THOSE THAT ARE STILL IN LIMBO OR STILL HAVEN'T.

SO ANYTHING DONE BEFORE WE ADAPT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ADAPT IS AT THE OLD FEE SCHEDULE, AND THEN ANYTHING FROM HERE, DEPENDING IF WE AS A COUNCIL WOULD.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT OUR...

YEAH, THE SQUEAKY MIC GETS THE WHEEL GREASE, RIGHT? YEAH, COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

HEY, WAYNE, LET'S JUST STAND UP HERE.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, ANY PROJECT THAT CAN GO WITH THE PERMIT PLACEMENT AT THIS POINT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE IMPACT RATES.

RIGHT.

AND WE WANT TO QUESTION THE IMPACT RATES ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS.

WHERE ARE THOSE AT? WHAT WOULD WE DO ABOUT THAT? AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO START THIS DISCUSSION AND GET THIS PROCESS MOVING.

WE DON'T HAVE IT AT THIS TIME.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ACT ON IN ORDER TO KEEP THESE DEVELOPMENTS MOVING FORWARD.

SURE.

COUNCIL, YEAH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE TONIGHT? OKAY.

SO IF WE CHOOSE TO CHANGE THIS...

IF WE CHOOSE TO CHANGE THIS AND LOWER THE FEES, HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CATCH UP? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BRING MORE HOUSES IN, WHICH IS GOING TO PUT MORE STRESS ON THE ROADWAYS.

WHAT'S THE PLAN? BECAUSE OUR ROADS ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE NOW.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MS. HILTON.

LET'S GO BACK TO THIS PACKET.

LET'S UNPACK THAT QUESTION JUST A LITTLE BIT IF WE CAN.

LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE.

GO TO PAGE 4.

AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHING THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS MAP UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER THE IMPACT PEOPLE.

FOLLOW ALONG.

OBVIOUSLY, THE SHADED WHITE COLOR LIMITS THE GOLD, IF YOU WILL, IMPACT FEE-ELIGIBLE WIDENING PROJECTS.

AND THEN IN RED IS IMPACT FEE-ELIGIBLE NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

SO I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE, BUT ALMOST DEAD CENTER, AND THEN OFF TO THE LEFT A LITTLE BIT, IS PROJECT NUMBER 35.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE MAP, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S THE VISTA PARK PROJECT.

AND VISTA HAS GIVEN US FULL AUTHORITY TO TALK THROUGH THEIR IMPACT FEE QUESTIONS.

SO THEY ACTUALLY BUILT HALF OF THAT ROUTE.

IT'S ON OUR IMPACT FEE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT COMES WITH THIS IMPACT FEE PROFILE.

THEY ACTUALLY BUILT HALF THAT ROUTE, SO IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

IT WILL BE, CERTAINLY, WHEN THEY COME IN AND TIE IT TOGETHER.

BUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND PAM, I'M NOT DRAGGING YOU INTO THIS, BUT JUST TO BE LEGAL FOR A MOMENT, IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THEM RECEIVING CREDIT FOR THAT FEE BECAUSE THE FEE WAS NOT HIGH ENOUGH THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A CONSIDERATION AT THE TIME THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS DRAFTED IN, BACK

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IN, GOSH, 18 OR 19, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

AND THAT'S NO FAULT OF ANYONE IN THE PICTURE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES AS DIFFERENT THINGS COME AND GO ON AND OFFLINE.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MRS. HILTON, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOK TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MAP, THE PALOMA TRAILS PROJECT STICKS OUT THERE TO THE EAST.

THERE'S TWO PROJECTS THERE, PROJECT 53 AND PROJECT 54.

THOSE TWO PROJECTS WILL BE BUILT WITH THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE CHECKING OFF VARIOUS PIECES OF THIS LONG-TERM STUDY SPECIFIC TO ROADS.

WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT SLOPE.

WHAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, AND WE ARE NOW THAT WE HAVE THESE FEES, IS MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS COMPLEMENTARY TO THIS FEE PROFILE WHEN WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT CAN PAY ITS FAIR SHARE AND IMPROVE THE ROAD NETWORK ALONGSIDE WATER AND WASTEWATER AS WELL.

SO THAT WASN'T A DIRECT ANSWER, BUT WE ARE CHIPPING AWAY AT SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS THROUGH THIS PLAN.

WE WON'T SOLVE ALL OF THEM, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT NOT EVERY PROJECT ON OUR ROADWAY CIP WILL GET DONE IN OUR TIME.

SO TO STEAL ANDREW'S WORDS, WITH THE END IN MIND, WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT THE SLOPE.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I HOPE THAT HELPS.

SO BASICALLY, DO WE JUST NEED TO PUT LANGUAGE INTO THIS THAT ALLOWS FOR YOU TO MAKE A DEVELOPMENT DEAL? OR DO WE NEED TO CHANGE ALL THE FEES? HERE'S WHERE MY HEART'S AT ON THIS ISSUE.

IF YOU GO TO THIS PROFILE HERE, I THINK WHAT WE'VE UNINTENTIONALLY DONE IS WE'VE ENTERED THE FEE MARKET A LITTLE HIGH ON THE ROADWAY.

WE ALL KNOW THAT WASTEWATER IS A HUGE ISSUE, NOT JUST FOR DECATUR, NOT JUST FOR WISE COUNTY, BUT EVERY COMMUNITY IN TEXAS.

AND I THINK WHAT'S PROBABLY GIVING MOST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THE BIGGEST AMOUNT OF HEADACHE, AND WAYNE, FEEL FREE TO SAY IT DIFFERENTLY IF I'M NOT MISSING THE MARK HERE, IS JUST THE TOTALITY OF FEES.

AND WHAT'S REALLY MAKING THAT INCREASE IS THAT ROADWAY COMPONENT.

SO I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE HIGH ON OUR PERCENTILE, AND WE CALL IT THE PERCENT OF MAX ELECTION.

AND I CAN PROVE THAT IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS PACKET HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING THROUGH, AND LOOK AT, I BELIEVE IT'S PAGE NINE, STARTS ON PAGE NINE.

LOOK AT YOUR ROADWAY DATA.

IT'S A CHART LIKE THIS.

LOOK AT OUR PARTNER CITIES THAT WERE STUDIED BACK IN 2024.

AND LOOK WHERE DECATUR LANDED.

I THINK WE LANDED WITH GOOD INTENTION THAT WE WANTED TO GET THESE FEES IN THE MARKET.

I'M SORRY, NATE, WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? PAGE NINE. GO TO PAGE NINE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IT'S TITLED COMPARISON DATA ROADWAY.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE WATCHING THIS ONLINE.

IT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.

JUST GLANCE REAL QUICKLY.

DECATUR'S AT THE TOP, AND WE ENTERED THE MARKET AT 100% IN 2024, AND THAT'S 13,600.

BUT JUST GLANCE DOWN.

USE CORINTH AS AN EXAMPLE.

OBVIOUSLY A MUCH DIFFERENT CITY, SURROUNDED BY OTHER LARGE, DENSELY POPULATED CITIES.

BUT THEY'RE 100% IN THE MARKET.

IT'S ONLY $3,700 PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

SO, MRS. REEVES, I THINK MAYBE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DATA BACKING ME UP HERE, IS I FEEL LIKE WE JUST ENTERED THE MARKET A LITTLE HIGH.

AND TO MRS. HILTON'S POINT, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS ON OUR CAPITAL PLAN THAT NEED TO GET DONE.

AND SO OUR TOTAL COST PER UNIT AT 100% IS MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR PARTNER CITY IN CORINTH THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN DOING ROAD PROJECTS WITH IMPACT FEES FOR A WHILE.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND I GUESS I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ASKING.

I KNOW YOU GUYS WANT SOME DIRECTION FROM US TO BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE YOUR TIME EFFECTIVELY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY FROM THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE WHERE WE NEED TO BE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS OF THESE THREE IMPACT FEES? OF THE THREE IMPACT FEES, WATER AND WASTEWATER, I HAVE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.

NOW, THEY'RE BEING DEVISED AS THE THREE IMPACT FEES.

RIGHT.

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AND IF I RECALL WHAT I HEARD ANDREW TALK ABOUT, IT'S REALLY, THESE ARE, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A, YOU WANT WASTEWATER AND WATER, SO THESE THINGS MAKE SENSE.

AND THEN TO MRS. HILTON, AND I THINK WHERE WE LANDED ON WITH MRS. HILTON'S COMMENTS WERE THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING ALL THESE COSTS BECAUSE THEY'RE EXTRAORDINARY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THEM AND NOT TO PUT THAT ON THE CITY TO BE PROVIDING ALL THIS FUNDING.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.

WE MADE THE CALL OF SAYING LET'S GO TO THAT 100%.

WE CAN, IT'S LIKE WE CAN ADJUST DOWN, BUT IT'S HARD TO ADJUST UP.

YEAH, AND I WOULD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

AND THE WAY YOU SAID THOSE WORDS REMINDED ME THAT AT THE TIME WE WERE GRAPPLING WITH BRINGING A NEW FEE ONLINE, THERE WAS SOME LEGISLATION BEING BORNE OUT OF AUSTIN THAT WAS COMING, AND I BELIEVE IT'S CHANGED THE WAY WE WILL GRAPPLE WITH THESE FEES.

AND I THINK THE BOARD OR LEGAL MAY KNOW BETTER THAN I, BUT WE WERE CONCERNED THAT ENTERING THE MARKET ANY OTHER WAY THAN PIE MIGHT BE BAD FOR THE CITY.

SO THE IDEA TO GO IN AT MAX AND REEL DOWN WAS MORE PALATABLE AT THE TIME BASED ON WHAT WE KNEW ABOUT THAT LEGISLATION THAT WAS COMING.

I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU ASKED A VERY DIRECT QUESTION.

ARE WE SAYING THAT WATER, WASTEWATER, OR WE'RE FEELING OKAY ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT? I WOULD SAY YES, AND I'D ANSWER THAT WITH, AGAIN, THIS PACKET THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH.

GO TO PAGE 11, WHICH IS JUST ONE PAGE FROM WHERE WE WERE, AND IT'S OUR COMPARISON DATA FOR WATER.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER LIST.

WE HAVE A FEW MORE PARTNERS THAT WE COMPARE AGAINST.

BUT YOU'LL NOTICE ALMOST EVERY PARTNER DOWN THAT RIGHT COLUMN THERE IS AT 100% OF THEIR MAX FEE COLLECTED.

NOW, THIS IS WATER, SO YOU CAN SEE OUR FEES ARE IN LINE WITH SEVERAL OTHER CITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO US.

I'LL POINT OUT KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD THERE, GRANBURY, AND THEN ON DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, BRENHAM, AND JUST UP FROM BRENHAM, DENTON.

SO I THINK IN TERMS OF WATER, WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD SPOT ON WATER, WASTEWATER, CERTAINLY, GIVEN THE MOUNTAINOUS PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

OKAY.

WELL, I FEEL LIKE WITH THAT FOR FOCUS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE IMPACT FEES ON THE ROADS IS WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK, AND I TOTALLY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR INPUT.

WE WANT TO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, A CHANGE WILL, NO PUN INTENDED, IMPACT US.

BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, THE DATA THAT YOU'RE SHOWING SAYS THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT MATCHING UP CORRECTLY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO AS I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE WATER, WE HAVE A LOT MORE IN THE WASTEWATER.

WHEN WE GO TO THE ROADS, WE HAVE FEWER CITIES TO KIND OF LOOK AT.

ALSO, SOME OF THOSE CITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP CORINTH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GROW.

I MEAN, THEY CAN'T BUILD A ROAD.

I MEAN, THEY'D HAVE TO LITERALLY TEAR DOWN A HOUSE, I THINK, TO BUILD A NEW ROAD IN CORINTH.

AND I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, OUR FEES ARE CORRECT AND COMPETITIVE AND NOT STRESSING OUT THE DEVELOPERS.

BUT WE ALSO GOT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWICE THE NUMBER ON THE WASTEWATER.

AND DO WE HAVE MORE DATA OUT THERE THAT WE CAN FIND? OKAY.

BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

JUST A REMINDER, WE HAVE 26 BENCHMARKING FEES THAT WE CAN PULL DATA FROM.

WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, THAT'S A GOOD PIECE OF INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHT.

THE OTHER ONE I'M LOOKING AT, IT SAYS SERVICE AREAS TWO, SAY AUBREY, 8,000, 50%.

SO ARE THEY COLLECTING 4,000? SO AUBREY PROBABLY HAS, THEY HAVE TWO SERVICE AREAS.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE.

SO IT APPEARS THAT IN THEIR TWO SERVICE AREAS, THE HIGHEST RATE IS 8,000.

OKAY.

AND 50%.

SO THEIR RATE IS ACTUALLY AT 16,000, BUT THEY'RE JUST COLLECTING HALF OF IT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE DISTRICT.

IF YOU GLANCE DOWN, YOU SEE DENNY.

FIVE.

RIGHT.

AND THERE'S A STATUTORY LIMIT.

I THINK IT'S BASED ON ROAD MILES.

ALL RIGHT.

AND IF WE COULD HAVE THEM ALL BASED OFF THE SAME YEAR OF UPDATE.

SO INSTEAD OF A 2019, A 21, A 23, AND A 24, THEY'RE ALL ON THE SAME YEAR OF UPDATE.

YEAH.

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EQUITABLE.

AND THEY COULD, I MEAN, THAT ALSO IS PROBABLY THEIR LAST UPDATE.

I'M GOING TO JUST GUESS.

THAT'S WHY IT'S.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

SO IT'S CURRENT.

IT'S STILL, YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE IT JUST MEANS THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, TOO, OR IT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT IT'S CURRENT.

IT COULD BE IN A GOOD EXCEL CUT AND PASTE.

YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT THE SAME YEARS.

THOSE THAT HAVE LOOKED AT IT.

ANY OTHER FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE FOR US? IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO CALL TOGETHER THE CIT.

COUNCIL'S FINE WITH IT.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT MEETING DATE AND TIME, AND IF WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO DRAW FORWARD, WE'LL POST IT AS A WORKSHOP.

SURE.

AND THROUGH SOME OF THESE SCENARIOS WITH OUR CIAC AND BRING YOU BACK HOPEFULLY BY THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, BRING BACK SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS A STEP FORWARD. DOES THAT SOUND FAIR TO THE TEAM? LIKE IT. ANY OTHER DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO PROVIDE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. APPRECIATE IT. I WILL JUST SAY, TAKE THIS HOME FOR LIGHT READING. IF ANYTHING STRIKES YOU, PLEASE CALL US.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITY ISSUES AT THE MOMENT. SURE. BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO STALL OUT OUR DEVELOPMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THAT. THANK YOU. GOOD DISCUSSION, EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 7, THIS IS A CONSENT AGENDA. IF ANYONE HAS ANY ITEM, OTHERWISE WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION. MR. MAYOR, MOVE WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES. ITEM 8 IS REPORTS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE ON ANY OF THOSE REPORTS? IF NOT, I'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.

HEARING NONE, I'LL MOVE ON TO 9. THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL LOOK TO HEAR FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. IF NOT, I WILL GET CLOSE

[7. CONSENT AGENDA ]

TO AN ADJOURNMENT. HEARING NONE, WE'LL ADJOURN BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AT 7.03.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

THANKS, EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.