[ITEM 3: Case A-25-0002 – Public hearing, discussion, and make a recommendation for the first reading of an ordinance to annex approximately 0.422-acre tract of land situated in the HD Donald Survey, Abstract No. 1158, Wise County, Texas, and being part of called 1.205 acre tract of land described in a warranty deed to American Tower Management, Inc., recorded in Volume 946, Page 311, Deed Records of Wise County, Texas. (Paloma Trails) ]

OH, MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS. Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. AND THAT MEANS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS CANNOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS WHILE THIS PUBLIC MEETING IS OPEN.

THEY'LL RESERVE ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING HAS BEEN CLOSED.

THE MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP NOW AT 5:32.

IS THAT BETTER? 32. GO. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS AN ANNEXATION REQUEST FOR A RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PALOMA TRAILS SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS JUST A VERY SMALL PORTION OF PROPERTY THAT WILL TIE PALOMA TRAILS BOULEVARD INTO OLD DENTON ROAD.

ONCE IT'S ANNEXED IT WILL BE DEEDED OVER TO THE CITY AS RIGHT OF WAY FOR A ROADWAY.

THE ANNEXATION IS ALLOWED BY TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 212.

AS FAR AS ANNEXATION REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION.

THE IT WAS FIRST READING WAS ON AUGUST 11TH, AND SECOND READING WAS AUGUST 21ST, 25.

AND SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY.

IT WAS A SMALL PIECE THAT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPER AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY STARTED THE DEVELOPMENT.

OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE DEDICATED AND DEEDED TO THE CITY OF DECATUR AS RIGHT OF WAY ONCE THIS ANNEXATION IS COMPLETE.

WE DID NOTIFY NINE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THIS ANNEXATION.

RECEIVED NO FORMAL RESPONSES, BUT DID HAVE ONE PHONE INQUIRY ON AUGUST 27TH, ASKING ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND GOING ON.

AND THAT WAS THE PROPERTY THAT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS WANTING TO KNOW HOW THAT IMPACTED HER PROPERTY.

RIGHT NOW, AS IT STANDS, THERE ARE SOME VERBIAGE CHANGES THAT NEED TO GO INTO THIS ANNEXATION AS FAR AS THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS TURNED IN FOR THAT. JUST SOME MINOR VERBIAGE CHANGES AND SOME CHANGES ON THE CLOSURE REPORT.

WE DID LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TO RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT THAT THESE CORRECTIONS HAVE TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE.

OH, LET ME GO BACK ONE RIGHT THERE. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A-25-0002, PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT ADDRESSES THE ENGINEERING AND THIRD PARTY REVIEWS COMMENTS BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF THE ANNEXATION AND ANNEXATION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? SAM SATTERWHITE HERE REPRESENTING THE

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DEVELOPER. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS NOW 5:36 COMMISSIONERS. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE ARE TWO HOUSES SHOWN ON HERE ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS STRIP.

THOSE TWO ARE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS AT THIS TIME AND ARE NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS REQUEST.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THERE'S ONE TO THE EAST.

THAT'S THAT TOWER THAT'S THERE, AND IT IS NOT BEING ANNEXED.

WELL, THAT'S A TOWER. OKAY. YES, SIR. AND THEN THERE IS A PORTION.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS IN THAT. NO. YEAH.

IT'S SHOWING THAT IT IS RIGHT THERE. BUT BOTH OF THOSE HOUSES TO THE WEST OF THAT, ARE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THE HOUSE TO THE WEST OF THIS STRIP. IS IT IN THE CITY LIMITS? NO, IT IS NOT. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S ON THERE, BECAUSE I.

THIS BLACK LINE. YEAH. THAT'S ONLY THAT PORTION.

IS IT ONLY THE SOLID BLACK LINE? YEAH. THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO BE ANNEXED INTO.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN GO BACK ONE MORE. THAT'S WHAT I AM.

YEAH. THAT HATCHED AREA IS ALL THAT IS BEING ANNEXED.

AND THE TWO AREAS ON EITHER THE AREAS ON EITHER SIDE OF IT ARE NOT ALREADY ANNEXED AND ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANNEXED AT THIS TIME.

NO, SIR. OKAY. WILL THERE BE A ROADWAY BUILT ACROSS THE PROPERTY AT SOME TIME, AND IF SO, AT WHOSE EXPENSE WOULD BE THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER? THE DEVELOPER IS BUILDING THAT ROAD AS WE SPEAK.

OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM ABOUT HOW THIS IS ACCESSED TO THE SUBDIVISION? YES. SO THIS IS SO THIS IS THE ACCESS OFF OF OLD DENTON ROAD INTO THE PALOMA TRAILS SUBDIVISION.

THE PALOMA TRAILS BOULEVARD. IT TRAVERSES THAT PROPERTY FROM THE SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO BUSINESS 380 ON THE NORTH AND SO THIS WAS THE LAST PIECE TO TIE THAT IN TOGETHER.

OKAY. THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST WHERE THE TOWER IS, I GUESS THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS ACROSS THIS PROPERTY TO GET TO THE TOWER. OR DOES THIS ELIMINATE THE ACCESS? THOSE ARE ACCESSED OFF OF OLD DENTON ROAD CURRENTLY.

OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS GOES IN FRONT OF THAT.

WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ANNEXATION PART OF IT.

NO, NO. THIS IS JUST THAT HATCHED AREA THAT THAT GOES RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH RIGHT THERE.

SO THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THAT RUNS ALONG OLD ROAD THERE.

THERE IS. THERE IS. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S PART OF THE ANNEXATION.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN. WAS THAT PART ALONG THE BOTTOM IN THERE? I ASSUME THEY'RE JUST GOING TO USE THAT PROBABLY TO WIDEN OLD DENTON ROAD A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT ENTRANCE.

SO IT'S STILL ALL I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T PREVENT SOMEONE FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT. I MEAN, IT'S ALL BEING ANNEXED FOR THE PURPOSES OF A ROADWAY EASEMENT.

SO NONE OF. THE TOWER IS STILL OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, AND ACCESS WILL STILL BE OFF OF OLD DENTON ROAD.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE PHONE CALL INQUIRY WAS? I MEAN, DID THEY? YES. I SPOKE TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER MYSELF.

SHE RECEIVED THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE SEND OUT ON THAT, AND SHE JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW THIS IMPACTED HER PROPERTY AND WHAT WHAT CHANGES WOULD BE MADE TO HER PROPERTY. LET HER KNOW THAT THIS DID NOT IMPACT HER IN ANY WAY.

THAT THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO HER WAS BEING ANNEXED.

SO THAT THERE WAS A ROADWAY THERE. SHE WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT SHE WOULD NOW BE ABLE TO, IN THE FUTURE, BE ABLE TO GET FROM OLD DENTON HIGHWAY OR OLD DENTON ROAD ACROSS TO 380 WITHOUT GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND.

VERY GOOD. GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OR RECOMMEND DENIAL.

I'LL RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONTINGENT THAT THEY PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT IS STILL REQUIRED BY STAFF.

OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER WILL KLOSE.

I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY, I GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MASON WOODRUFF.

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ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[ITEM 4: RP-25-0010 – Consider an extension request regarding a replat application of Lot 1R-1 and Lot 1R-2, Block 1, Decatur Self Storage, being a replat of Lot 1, Block 1, Decatur Self Storage, in the City of Decatur, Wise County, Texas. (Extension Request for Replat – Decatur Self Storage/Gary Cocanougher) ]

IT IS NOW 5:41. SO THIS IS A REPLAT RP-25-0010. WE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION ON THIS THE PROPERTY IS BEING SPLIT INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS WITH NO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME ON THIS PROPERTY CAN BE LEGALLY PLATTED. HOWEVER, THE APPLICATION IS NOT IN ORDER AT THIS TIME AND DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

IT HAS GONE BACK TO THE SURVEYOR FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THE DEFICIENCIES.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY NEEDED AN EXTENSION FOR THIS.

AND SO THEY DID ASK FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, THAT WILL CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY. HEARING NONE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

IT IS NOW 5:44. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS ADJACENT TO PALOMA CREEK.

SO THIS IS THE COCONUT STORAGE. YEAH, BUT IT IS.

IT'S ADJACENT TO WHAT'S GOING TO BE PALOMA CREEK.

RIGHT. ACROSS TRAILS. YES. YES. YES. OKAY. THERE IS A PROPERTY IN BETWEEN THERE.

OH. SO THIS. YOU'RE ASKING IF IT BORDERS IT. YES.

OKAY. IT DOES NOT. I DON'T BELIEVE, IT DOES NOT BORDER IT DIRECTLY.

NO. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 30 DAY EXTENSION.

OKAY. I'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER.

WILL KLOSE. I NEED A SECOND. IT'S ACTUALLY A MOTION FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE 30 DAY EXTENSION.

OH, I AM SORRY. THAT IS CORRECT. FOR 30 DAY EXTENSION.

YEAH. OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO SECOND THE 30 DAY.

SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. THE MOTION. I'VE GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JOHN LANIER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOVING INTO ITEM

[ITEM 5: Discussion regarding a staff-initiated amendment to the Subdivision Code regarding Xeriscape regulations. ]

NUMBER FIVE, A NONPUBLIC, NON PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.

GO AHEAD. SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. YOU REMEMBER HERE A WHILE BACK WE BROUGHT TO YOU SOME CHANGES ON THE FENCE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAD ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND GOING FORWARD. SO THIS IS PROPOSED CHANGES TO SOME LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE THAT ARE IN THE SUBDIVISION AND AND ZONING ORDINANCES PARTICULARLY REFERRING TO THE XERISCAPE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR ORDINANCE. SO CURRENTLY, OUR ORDINANCE ONLY ALLOWS XERISCAPING AND THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR SOME TYPE OF XERISCAPING TO BE ABLE TO BE USED AROUND TOWN.

HOWEVER, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF REGULATION ON THAT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN THE CITY OF DECATUR.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS EXPAND THAT XERISCAPING POLICY AND ORDINANCE IN THE CITY.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WOULD BRING IN THERE BRING TO THIS IS WATER CONSERVATION, SOIL IMPROVEMENT, IT DOES LIMIT TURF AREAS, WHICH DOES LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT YOU USE FOR THOSE.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOME PARTICULAR NATIVE PLANT SPECIES THAT CAN BE USED IN THIS ORDINANCE WHERE OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE REALLY DOESN'T SPEAK TO ANY TYPE OF PLANTS THAT CAN BE USED IN THAT.

IT PROMOTES MORE EFFICIENT IRRIGATION AND SUSTAINABLE MAINTENANCE.

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TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 580.002 CONSIDERS A XERISCAPE ORDINANCE FOR MUNICIPAL, MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES TO BE ABLE TO ENACT THESE ORDINANCES FOR THE CONSERVATION OF WATER.

SO WE ARE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO ALLOW XERISCAPING IN ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WITH LIMITED APPLICATIONS. BOTH OF THESE WOULD REQUIRE A PERCENTAGE OF LIVING PLANT MATERIAL TO BE INCLUDED WITH THE XERISCAPE LANDSCAPE THAT GOES IN. WE WOULD PUT SOME DESIGN STANDARDS IN THERE AS WELL AS SOME INSTALLATION STANDARDS THAT WOULD FOLLOW. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IN THIS LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE PORTION OF THIS IT WOULD ESTABLISH A REGIONAL PLANT LIST.

AND THAT IS REFERENCED BY THE TEXAS SMARTSCAPE STANDARDS.

I GOT A CHANCE TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF THIS. IT'S A VERY INFORMATIVE PIECE OF LITERATURE THAT BREAKS DOWN THE STATE INTO DIFFERENT REGIONS AND WHAT IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE DIFFERENT REGIONS IN THE STATE, BUT IT DOES HELP CONSERVE WATER.

OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP THAT IN OUR FOREFRONT ON THIS.

THERE ARE A FEW PLACES AROUND DECATUR THAT HAVE SOME XERISCAPING.

NOT AS MUCH WITH THE LIVING PLANTS THAT ARE STILL IN THERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THIS, BUT THAT WOULD GIVE US SOMETHING TO REFERENCE AS A STANDARD MOVING FORWARD.

THERE'S SOME STOCK EXAMPLES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN HERE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

YOU CAN SEE THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS INCORPORATING A LOT OF MULCH INTO THAT.

ALSO NOT JUST THE ROCKS, BUT MOST OF THESE STOCK IMAGES ARE SHOWING THAT THEY'RE STILL LIVING PLANT MATERIAL THAT'S BEING INCORPORATED INTO THESE DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE FEATURES.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, WE BROUGHT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL.

THEY SAID YES. THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.

WE'D LIKE TO, BEFORE WE BRING IT TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION.

WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU AND SEE WHAT YOUR INPUT WAS ON THIS SO THAT WE BRING SOMETHING TO YOU.

WE'RE WE'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ON THESE THINGS.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ANY THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INCORPORATED IN THIS LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD. LET US KNOW. ARE WE GOING TO DO A WORKSHOP ON THIS OR.

NO, SIR. THIS THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION TO YOU TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE MOVING THIS FORWARD.

YOU'LL SEE THIS AT THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, THE NEXT REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

AND WE PRESENT OUR QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME. NO, YOU CAN, YOU CAN YOU CAN PRESENT THEM NOW, BUT YES, YOU CAN PRESENT THEM AT THAT TIME ALSO.

ARE THERE GUIDELINES FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES LIKE WHICH ONES CAN HAVE THE XERISCAPING AND WHICH ONES CAN'T? I DIDN'T SEE THAT. SO WE DO NOT WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE ESTABLISHED YET.

OKAY. NOT LOOKING TO LIMIT WHO CAN AND WHO CANNOT, BUT TO PUT GUIDELINES OUT THERE TO BE FOLLOWED WHEN YOU WANT TO USE XERISCAPING.

OKAY. SO HOW IS THIS IMPLEMENTED? I MEAN, OKAY, LET'S JUST SAY A HOMEOWNER COMES TO THE CITY AND SAYS, I WANT TO DO XERISCAPING FOR MY LOT. SURE. IS THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. I MEAN, ARE THEY I MEAN, AND THEY THEY GO FORWARD AND IMPLEMENT IT.

IS IT THEN CERTIFIED OR STAMPED? IS THAT HEY, THIS LOT IS XERISCAPED.

NO, SIR. OR AND IT HAS TO BE THAT WAY GOING FORWARD.

OR I MEAN, I ASSUME THEY CAN UNDO IT, BUT I GUESS I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN XERISCAPED AND NOT XERISCAPED.

I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S THERE ARE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH, BUT IS THIS JUST SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THESE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE OTHERWISE NOT APPROVED BY ORDINANCE BEFORE? SO THE ONLY PLACE THAT OUR THAT XERISCAPING WAS MENTIONED IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE OR ZONING ORDINANCES WAS FOR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES. RIGHT. OKAY. OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT REALLY DOESN'T SAY WHAT, WHERE IT'S REQUIRED OR WHERE IT'S NOT REQUIRED OR ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED.

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SO OTHER PLACES HAVE USED THIS. BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY IT DOES HAVE WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU EXPECT WHENEVER YOU HAVE A DEVELOPED PROPERTY.

THIS WILL ADD TO THAT. SO A LOT OF TIMES IT'S MAINLY ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE SEEING A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH.

NOT AS MUCH ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, BUT IT DOES GIVE US SOMETHING IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO PUT BACK TO, TO SAY, WHENEVER YOU DO THIS AT YOUR PROPERTY, IT'S NOT JUST SOLID GRAVEL ON THIS.

WE NEED TO INCORPORATE SOME TYPE OF LIVING PLANTS IN THERE SO THAT WE STILL HAVE THAT GREENERY.

OKAY. I THINK I'M MORE OR LESS UNDERSTAND. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A XERISCAPE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND A NON? I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE THAT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A MORE A MORE EFFICIENT IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE MORE TARGETING WHERE YOU WANT THAT WATER TO GO.

OH. SO IT'S WHERE, NOT SPECIFICALLY HOW. OKAY.

SO BUT YOU COULD USE DRIP IRRIGATION. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. DRIP IRRIGATION. YOU CAN USE SMALL POINT EMITTERS.

YEAH. GO OUT THERE RATHER THAN JUST A SPRAY FIELD THAT GOES OUT THERE.

I ASSUME THE ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE IS TO USE LESS WATER.

YES, SIR. TO DEAL WITH THE IMPENDING WATER CRISIS THAT EVERYBODY'S FACING.

IT WILL. AND THEN IT'S HEAD AGAIN SOMEPLACE. AND POTENTIALLY LESS MAINTENANCE AS WELL.

YES. YEAH, POTENTIALLY. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE XEROSCAPING.

MAKE SURE YOU MAINTAIN IT THAT IT DOESN'T TURN INTO A WHEAT FIELD.

RIGHT. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATION TO ADDRESS THAT.

BUT I'M ASSUMING THE EXPECTATION IS IT WOULD ALSO BE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER FOR LANDSCAPING.

YES, SIR. FOR BUSINESSES, CHURCHES OR WHOEVER WHO ARE.

BOTH THE INSTALLATION AND THEN OF COURSE THE MAINTENANCE.

IF YOU'VE GOT A XERISCAPE, YOU DON'T HAVE. AS WELL, AS WATER USAGE.

YEAH. YEAH. WATER COSTS. YEAH. EXACTLY. THIS WITH LIMITATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I DIDN'T PHRASE IT CORRECTLY.

WHAT WOULD THOSE LIMITATIONS BE IN RESIDENTIAL THAT IT JUST.

SO IT'S GOING IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY CAN BE XERISCAPED.

AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF OF GREENERY IN THERE.

AND NOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGES ON THAT, I THINK LISA IS WORKING THROUGH THOSE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE.

THERE'S ALSO SOME SOME POINTS WHERE YOU CAN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SUBDIVISIONS THAT STILL REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE SOD IN THAT FRONT YARD. AND SO IT'S THOSE LIMITED AREAS WHERE WE STILL HAVE HOMEOWNER REGULATIONS OR HOME REGULATIONS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THAT REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE GRASS IN THEIR FRONT YARD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES TURFGRASS FALL WITHIN THIS, AND IF SO, HOW DOES IT YOU COULD INCORPORATE BOTH. YOU COULD INCORPORATE A FLOWER BEDS AND TREED AREAS WITH MULCH UNDER IT OR ROCKS OR WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE THERE. BUT LIKE THE THE ARTIFICIAL GRASS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, THE TURF GRASS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING NOW, YOU KNOW.

DOES THAT FALL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS, OR IS THAT SEPARATE? I THINK IT COULD. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LISA AND I HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT HOW THE ARTIFICIAL TURF WOULD FALL INTO THAT.

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING. THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE BRING THESE.

WELL, I THINK I THINK IT MAYBE IF IF WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST ADDRESS IT.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. CAN YOU BACK UP THE SLIDES A COUPLE THINGS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT ALL MY QUESTIONS TO THE.

NOT THE PICTURE BEFORE. THE PICTURES FOR THE PICTURES.

MORE AND MORE. YEAH, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT.

TURF.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO THINK ABOUT IT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL BRING BACK A FORM OF AN ORDINANCE FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OFF OF

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THAT. WE CAN INCORPORATE ANY PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THAT TIME.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE ON THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT NOW. IF THIS THIS IS JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU SOON TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

WE DID TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 11TH.

AND THEY DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AMENDING THE CODE.

SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE POTENTIALLY POISONOUS PLANTS THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROHIBITING THOSE.

AND THEN DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF PLANTS REQUIRED IN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES TO YOUR YOUR POINT THERE, JOHN. OKAY. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YES. SO SAY AN HOA HAS DEED RESTRICTIONS NOT ALLOWING XERISCAPING. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THOSE THOSE THOSE WOULD, WOULD APPLY IN LIEU OF THE CITY ORDINANCE, RIGHT? NO. BUT SHOULD BUT SHOULD.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. AND THEN SECONDLY IS SHOULD THE CITY SAY HOA CAN'T, CAN'T OR THERE CAN'T BE A DEVELOPMENT THAT PREVENTS XERISCAPING? I THINK TEXAS LAW SAYS THAT YOU CAN DO THIS XERISCAPING IN HOA'S.

THAT'S MY QUESTION. HOA CANNOT STOP YOU FROM.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU IF THERE'S A HOA REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT, I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ONE. BUT THOSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN HOA OR A DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHATEVER THAT COMES INTO PLAY ON THAT. THOSE ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. PAM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT HOA AND DEED RESTRICTIONS THE CITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH.

I MEAN, THE CITY HAS AN OPTION. I BELIEVE IT'S PERMISSIVE FOR A CITY TO ENFORCE, BUT ALMOST NO CITIES DO.

SO AN HOA HAS A HAS A SOMETHING BUILT INTO THEIR ORIGINAL DEDICATION.

SAYS YOU CAN'T DO XERISCAPING. AND THEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND GETS PERMISSION FROM THE CITY AND COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AND DOES THE IF THE HOA WANTS TO DISPUTE THAT AND HIRE A LAWYER AND GO TO COURT AND CHALLENGE IT, THEY CAN AND THE OUTCOME WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE JUDGE IN THAT CASE.

OKAY, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. WE WOULD NOT GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

OKAY. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX. ITEM SIX. SO THE EXTENSION REQUEST WAS APPROVED TONIGHT.

[ITEM 6: Discussion of future agenda, new business items, staff requests, and potential special called meeting and/or workshop requests: a. If the extension request is approved, a special meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission will be required on September 30, 2025. b. As of the agenda posting, the October 7, 2025, meeting currently has two (2) new Planning applications. The submittal deadline is September 8, 2025, at 5:00 p.m. ]

SO THAT WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL MEETING WHICH WILL BE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025.

WE'LL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION ON THAT. AND AS OF THIS AGENDA POSTING THE OCTOBER 7TH MEETING CURRENTLY HAS TWO NEW PLANNING APPLICATIONS. THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 8TH, SO MORE MAY ARRIVE ON THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE GOT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS MEETING.

IT IS NOW 6:00, STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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