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ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. SINCE IT'S 5:30, WE DO HAVE.
MY NAME IS WILL KLOSE. I'M THE VICE CHAIRMAN.
AND WE WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER 1.
NO, I AM ON THE WRONG THING. HANG ON A SECOND.
I'M LOOKING AT AN OLD AGENDA. I SHOULD BE LOOKING AT MY PHONE.
[ITEM 1: Consider and take appropriate action regarding the approval of the Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes from July 1, 2025.]
2025. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE ONE CORRECTION.OKAY. ON THE LIST. IT HAS ME AS ABSENT AT THE TOP, BUT IN ITEM 1 IT DOESN'T HAVE ME.
IT HAS COMMISSIONER HICKS ABSENT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE MY NAME THERE.
SO ITEM NUMBER 1 SHOULD AT THE VERY END READ COMMISSIONER HICKS AND COMMISSIONER CROSS ABSENT.
THAT'S IT. WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE. YEAH. OKAY.
WOULD THAT BE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THAT ONE? I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THAT CORRECTION.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF.
I'LL SECOND. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANIER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 2, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING AT
[ITEM 2: Case SUP-25-0003. Public hearing, discussion, and recommendation to the City Council regarding an Ordinance for a Specific Use Permit (SUP), in accordance with Appendix B, “Zoning”, Section 7.6 “Accessory Structure Regulations,” Subsection 7.6.5, (A) “Residential Uses,” (5) to allow a carport that is in excess of twenty-four (24) feet in length, (6) to allow a carport in excess of twelve (12) feet in height, and (8) to allow a second carport on a legally platted lot, in an SF2, Single-Family Zoning District, on approximately 0.45 acres of land located at 1204 John Avenue, Decatur, Texas.]
05:32. COMMISSION WILL MOVE INTO A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.STAFF. GOOD EVENING. LISA HANNON, PLANNING DIRECTOR.
FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND OUR STAFF REPORT INTO THE RECORD IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REFERENCE.
SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR 1204 JOHN AVENUE.
SO ARTICLE 5, SECTION 5.2.5 IS REGARDING OUR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL OF APPROVAL OR DENIAL. SO THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SF-2.
CARPORTS ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED THAT THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE FRONT YARD.
SETBACK OF 25FT. THIS REQUESTED CARPORT IS APPROXIMATELY 33FT FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, SO IT FALLS WITHIN THE PROPER REGULATIONS. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED IF THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE CARPORT PER PROPERTY.
SO THIS SPECIFIC CARPORT IS APPROXIMATELY 30FT IN LENGTH.
SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SUP-25-0003.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? WELL WE'LL SEE.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 534 AND OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION OR COMMENTS. IS THIS FOR A LARGE VEHICLE OR TRAILER OR SOMETHING? IS THAT THE REASON THEY NEED A LARGER CARPORT OR DO WE NOT? HE JUST, HE WORKS ON HIS OWN VEHICLES AND STUFF, SO IT'S NOT FOR AN RV.
HE DID SAY IT WAS NOT FOR AN RV. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION.
WE TALKED QUITE A BIT MONTHS AGO ABOUT A CARPORT.
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APPEARANCE. YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK PART OF IT WAS TO ADOPT A CARPORT ORDINANCE. DID THAT ORDINANCE GET ADOPTED? YES.OKAY. IT DID GET ADOPTED. ORIGINALLY, THERE WERE NO CARPORTS.
THEN THERE WERE CARPORTS. WITH THIS ADOPTION BEFORE I CAME ON BOARD.
CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. IS I GUESS THIS IS THE RENDERINGS FOR.
IS THIS A KIT OR IS THIS SOMO SORT OF. IT IS DONE BY A MANUFACTURER AND A CONTRACTOR.
OKAY, I IT HAS TO MEET ALL THE BUILDING CODES.
WELL, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS. IT'S AN ENGINEER DRAWING. SO. SO WE WOULD JUST BASICALLY APPROVE IT, AND THEN IT WOULD GO BEFORE STAFF TO ENSURE THAT IT MEETS BUILDING CODES.
IT MEETS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE PROPER ENGINEERING DRAWINGS OR WHATEVER.
YES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.
YES, WE HAVE. MR. KLOSE, THIS IS WAYNE SMITH.
YES, WAYNE. I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD CHIME IN. YEAH, YEAH.
JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE. YES. THIS WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE PLANS ON THIS.
WE LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED HAS TO MEET THE HIGHER WIND STANDARDS.
HE HAS ALREADY SUBMITTED A SET OF PLANS SHOWING THE ENGINEERING FOR THIS.
THIS IS GOING THROUGH SOME. IT IS NOT, IT IS PRODUCED BY A MANUFACTURER.
RIGHT. SO IT IS. BUT IT'S NOT A KID THAT HE WOULD JUST GO BUY AND THEN ASSEMBLE OR WHATEVER.
NO, THESE HAVE ACTUAL DRAWINGS THAT COME WITH THEM.
I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS TRYING TO NOT NECESSARILY SAY THOSE WEREN'T ALLOWED, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY MET WIND CODES, I GUESS IT'S FINE.
BUT YES, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING FOR THAT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MET THE WIND CODE.
EXACTLY. AND AND WE TALKED SUBSTANTIALLY ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
OR CAN HE CHANGE HIS MIND ON THAT IF HE DETERMINES IT COST TOO MUCH? OR IS THAT. NO, THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED IN WHAT YOU CAN.
AND THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PACKAGE THAT'S IN.
IT'S ON THE SLAB. IT HAS TO HAVE THE ANCHORING.
OKAY. YES. THERE HAS TO BE ANCHORING, AND IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE EITHER ASPHALT OR CONCRETE IN THE PARKING SURFACE AREA ALSO. OKAY. AND IT CAN'T BE GRAVEL OR OR SAND OR ROCK OR DIRT.
THE APPROACH ALSO I GUESS WOULD HAVE TO BE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE.
THAT IS ALL EXISTING NONCONFORMING. IF IT'S DIRT UP TO IT.
BUT THE ACTUAL PARKING SURFACE IN THE CARPORT ITSELF HAS TO BE AN IMPROVED SURFACE.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY, I WILL ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION THEN. EITHER WAY, RECOMMENDATION OR DENIAL. I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
LOOKING FOR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 3.
[ITEM 3: Case SUP-25-0004. Public hearing, discussion, and action regarding an ordinance to allow the sale of alcoholic or mixed beverages for on-premises consumption in a C-1A, Decatur Square Business Zoning District, on approximately 0.11 acres of land described as Lot 3, Block 12, Original Town of Decatur, located at 109 N State Street, Decatur, Texas.]
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THE SAME, PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS APPLY AS BEFORE.WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:39 AND TURN IT OVER TO LISA AGAIN.
SO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ANOTHER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR 109 STATE STREET.
AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT. THIS IS WHERE THE OLD FUZZY'S WAS.
THEY'RE NOT DEVIATING FROM ANY CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THE APPLICATION IS IN ORDER.
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THE LAND USE IS DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR SUP-25-0004.
ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY. HEARING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:41 AND OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICATION, BUT WHAT KIND OF A RESTAURANT IS THIS? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM. GO AHEAD. MY FAMILY AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THEIR SPRINGTOWN LOCATION RECENTLY, AND IT'S BURGERS, FRIES, CATFISH HOMESTYLE PLATES.
IT'S ALL VERY GOOD. IT'S GOOD. WHAT ARE THE HOURS? DO YOU KNOW THE HOURS? THE BUSINESS THERE CLOSES AT 10 P.M.
AND I THINK THEY'RE OPEN, STARTING WITH LUNCH.
I WOULD ASSUME THEY'LL HAVE SIMILAR HOURS. GOOD.
IT'S QUITE GOOD. WELCOME THEM TO DECATUR. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
OKAY, I'LL JUST LOOK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CROSS FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. I'LL SECOND. AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HICKS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.
OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 4. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:42.
[ITEM 4: Case SI-25-0002. Public hearing, discussion and recommendation to the City Council regarding an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Decatur, Texas amending Appendix “B”, “Zoning,” of the City of Decatur’s Code of Ordinances, containing the comprehensive zoning ordinance of the City of Decatur (“Zoning Ordinance”), to provide for amendments to Article 3. Definitions, Subsection 3.2 Definitions; and to Section 7.5 Screening, Fencing, and Buffering regulations; Subsection 7.5.2 Screening of Nonresidential and Multi-Family areas with Screening Salls; and to Subsection 7.5.3, Fences in Residential Areas.]
AND I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO LISA AGAIN. WE'LL ENTER OUR STAFF REPORT INTO THE RECORD BY REFERENCE IN ITS ENTIRETY.SO THIS IS A SEPARATE PRESENTATION. THIS IS OUR STAFF INITIATED AMENDMENT FOR THE FENCES BUFFERING, I BELIEVE WAYNE BROUGHT IT FOR FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION AFTER WE GOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. WE'VE GOT DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. SO THIS IS OUR SCREENING, BUFFERING FENCES, MATERIALS AND MAINTENANCE. SO IN OUR ORDINANCE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE IN THE PACKAGE.
SO WE ADDED DEFINITIONS FOR FENCE TYPES AND MATERIALS.
SO CURRENTLY BUFFERING IS REQUIRED BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE 6 TO 8 FOOT SOLID MASONRY WALL, WHICH CAN BE COST PROHIBITIVE AND BURDENSOME WHEN ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS COULD BE USED, WHICH SUFFICE THE BUFFERING AND SCREENING OF THESE TYPES OF USES.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A COMBINATION OF FENCING AND LANDSCAPING THAT COULD BE USED.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T, THEY COULDN'T PUT UP A MASONRY WALL.
BUT WE'RE GIVING SOME OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT BUY A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, AND IT HAS HAD NO BUFFERING.
BUT IF THEY CHANGE THAT USE, THEN IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BUFFERED.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE DEVELOPER, BUSINESS FRIENDLY HERE.
WE'VE GOT SOME MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS.
IF IT'S A TEN FOOT BUFFER AREA, IT WOULD BE FOUR TREES, 35 SHRUBS PER EVERY 100 LINEAR FEET.
WE DO REVIEW THE LANDSCAPE PLANS AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT.
SO AND FENCES AND WALLS, IF SUBSTITUTED FOR A MASONRY WALL, WOULD MUST BE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET IN HEIGHT WITH MATERIALS THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
TREES AND SHRUBS FROM OUR RECOMMENDED LIST TO SUPPLEMENT THE EARTHEN BERMS OR FENCES OR WALL AREAS, AND A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE APPROVED LANDSCAPE MATERIAL LANDSCAPE HAS TO BE INSTALLED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE TO HELP WITH ESTHETICS, AND IT HAS TO FORM A CONTINUOUS SCREEN OF AT LEAST SIX FEET IN HEIGHT WITHIN TWO YEARS OF INSTALLATION.
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AND ALL THE LOCATION, HEIGHT, DESIGN AND MATERIALS WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR THE DEVELOPMENT DERVICES DIRECTOR, AND IT CAN BE SUBSTITUTED TO OFFSET A PORTION OF THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING FOR THAT PROPERTY.SO WE HAVE A MATRIX ON WHAT THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE IN BETWEEN THE TYPES OF USES.
AND EVEN IF THERE IS AN EASEMENT IT WOULD NOT EXEMPT ANY PROPERTY FROM THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, SO EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE BUFFERED FROM COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE ADDED TREE SPECIES LIST FOR APPROVED NATIVE AND NON-NATIVE TREE SPECIES, AS WELL AS A CHART FOR APPROVED NATIVE AND NON-NATIVE SHRUB SPECIES. IRRIGATION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED FOR ALL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THE MAINTENANCE FOR ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ALL THE PLANTINGS AND PHYSICAL FEATURES, INSTALLATION, PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE SO WOULD HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED IN PERPETUITY.
NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE DEAD TREES, SHRUBS, GROUND COVER, IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
SO NOW WE GET INTO FENCES. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE PERMITTING FENCES IN FRONT YARDS.
WE ADDED SOME STUFF OR WE ADDED SOME REGULATIONS REGARDING THE CONTINUOUS CORNER LOTS.
AS YOU SEE HERE, IF THE PROPERTY HAS A CONTINUOUS CORNER LOT FROM LIKE STREET A TO STREET B, THAT THE FENCE MAY BE SIX FEET IN HEIGHT, BUT IT HAS TO BE LOCATED BEHIND THE REAR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OF THE HOUSE AND ONLY ON THE SECONDARY STREET, AND IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF 25FT FROM THAT SECONDARY STREET FRONTAGE.
AND FRONT YARD FENCES WOULD BE ALLOWED, NOT EXCEEDING 36IN IN HEIGHT ON ALL PROPERTIES.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF TEN FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, OR FIVE FEET INSIDE A SIDEWALK, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. WE GET INTO FENCE MATERIAL, ALUMINUM, VINYL, FINISHED WOOD.
ANY FINISHED WOOD HAS TO BE PRESSURE TREATED, PAINTED, STAINED, OR SEALED.
WROUGHT IRON A DECORATIVE ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE.
DECORATIVE POST WITH ROPE, SPLIT RAIL AND MASONRY FENCES AND WALLS NOT TO EXCEED 18IN IN HEIGHT.
THAT'S GOING TO HELP, FOR I THINK MR. KLOSE BROUGHT THAT UP REGARDING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
SO WHAT WE ARE PROHIBITING UNFINISHED OR BARE WOOD, CHICKEN WIRE, ANY TYPE OF AGRICULTURAL GRADE WIRE, SOLID PANEL, LATTICE, SHADOW BOX, CHAIN LINK OR CHAIN LINK WITH SLATS, ELECTRICALLY CHARGED BARBED WIRE OR RAZOR WIRE.
SO WHILE THE PRIVACY FENCES LOOK NICE, WE WANT VISUAL PERMEABILITY THROUGH THE FENCE, ESPECIALLY ON THE CORNERS, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY LINE OF SIGHT ISSUES. WE'VE HAD ADDED MAINTENANCE PROVISIONS INTO THE ORDINANCE.
OFFENSES ARE TO BE MAINTAINED IN SOUND CONDITION, GOOD REPAIR REGARDLESS OF WHEN THE FENCE WAS INSTALLED AND IF FOUND IN DISREPAIR, IT MUST BE REMOVED OR REPLACED WITHIN 14 DAYS.
AS AS WELL. WE ARE ADDING MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY VEGETATION OR LANDSCAPE.
IT HAS TO BE ACTIVELY MAINTAINED, NOT OVERGROWN OR UNSIGHTLY.
THIS IS A PICTURE FROM A LOCAL AREA, A LOCAL PROPERTY HERE.
BEDS AND AREAS NEED TO BE CLEARLY DEFINED SO WE DON'T HAVE WILD OVERGROWTH LIKE WE SEE HERE.
AND ALL THE VEGETATION, HOUSEHOLD DEBRIS DISPOSED OF PROPERLY.
SO ACTION IS REQUIRED ON THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. SO SORRY. OKAY. SO ANYBODY HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN AT 5>49.
AND OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF AN ALUMINUM FENCE THAT WOULD BE APPROVED? LIKE AN ALUMINUM PICKET FENCE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE WROUGHT IRON, BUT IT'S JUST ALUMINUM MATERIAL.
OKAY. SO IT COULD BE LIKE PAINTED BLACK OR. POWDER COATED OR PAINTED BLACK.
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THAT COULD BE ALUMINUM. IT LOOKS LIKE WOOD OR VINYL, BUT THEY MAKE THEM IN ALUMINUM, THAT WAS MY INTENT ON THAT.THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE MADE SEVERAL STATEMENTS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE REQUIRED AND, YOU KNOW, REPLACING DEAD PLANTS. WHAT ARE THE, WHO'S GOING TO BE IDENTIFYING THE NEED? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION. TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, SOME SHRUBS DIE.
THE PROPERTY HAS CHANGED HANDS. THAT OWNER IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES? AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW THAT THE PROBLEM EXISTS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE COULD IMPLEMENT POSSIBLY YEARLY OR BIANNUAL LANDSCAPE INSPECTIONS AND GO OUT AND CHECK BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SUBMITTED.
SO WE WILL HAVE A COPY OF THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND DO YEARLY INSPECTIONS ON THAT.
AND THEN IT WOULD BECOME A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS. I WAS I HAD THE SAME EXACT QUESTION AS COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF DID.
IS THIS JUST A CODE COMPLIANCE OR DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE TO GO AROUND? AND WOULD IT BE MORE LIKELY THAT SOMEONE BRINGS IT TO THEIR ATTENTION, OR ARE THEY ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR.
WELL, FOR A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.
YEAH, YEAH. BUT IF WE INSTITUTE, AND I'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH WAYNE ON THIS, BUT IF WE INSTITUTE, BECAUSE I GO OUT RIGHT NOW AND DO THE LANDSCAPE INSPECTIONS BEFORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY GETS THEIR CO, SO I GO OUT AND DO THE LANDSCAPE INSPECTIONS.
THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING OUT AND DOING YEARLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S MAINTAINED.
SO WHAT WE KNOW GENERALLY OFTEN HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER WILL PUT IN LANDSCAPE BUFFERING WHATEVER. AND WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO, HALF THE TREES ARE DEAD.
THEY'RE PULLING THEM OUT, VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE IS IF YOU HAVE A BUFFERING REQUIREMENT AND WE'RE SAYING THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED IN PERPETUITY, THAT THERE BE A PLAN IN PLACE TO ENFORCE THAT SO, I AGREE.
WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK ON THAT. IT'S JUST HARD TO GROW TREES IN TEXAS WITH THE HEAT AND THE BUGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS WE KNOW, SO. AN INDICATOR WITH THE ROCK. YEAH, EXACTLY.
YEAH, SO. SO DO THOSE RULES APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR ONLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES? RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THE FENCES ARE ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING LIKE THE FRONT YARD FENCES.
THESE ARE FOR RESIDENTIAL. BUT THE BUFFERING AND SCREENING IS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, SO. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO CREATE THOSE BUFFERS BETWEEN THEIR BUSINESS AND AN ADJACENT BUSINESS.
CORRECT. WELL, WE HAVE A WHERE'S. YEAH. HOLD ON.
RIGHT. IT'S JUST BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL, MIXED USE COMMERCIAL NONRESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. IT SEEMS LIKE A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WAS MOTION OR ACTION TO RESTRICT REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING MATERIALS LIKE YOU COULDN'T REQUEST OR YOU COULDN'T SAY THAT THEY USED THESE CERTAIN MATERIALS FOR RESIDENCES AND DIFFERENT PROPERTIES SUCH AS THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ENFORCED ON THIS OR DOES THAT NOT APPLY TO FENCES? FENCES, THEY'RE NOT PRIMARY STRUCTURES OR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
YEAH. RIGHT, SO I THINK IT WAS, I MEAN, THAT.
THAT LEGISLATION WAS PUT IN PLACE BASICALLY TO PROHIBIT CITIES FROM LIMITING WHAT A CITY COULD USE FOR BUILDING MATERIALS. WE'RE NOT LIMITING THEM ON WHAT THEY CAN USE FOR LIMITED FOR BUILDING MATERIALS, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVED BUILDING MATERIALS TO BE USED FOR FENCES.
AND I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. JOHN, IS THE IS THE FENCES IN PARTICULAR? YES. YES, YES. AND SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T FALL UNDER THAT LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS IS MORE OF A FENCE, AND IT'S NOT THE BUILDING MATERIALS FOR THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING ENFORCED.
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AND SO THAT LEGISLATION WOULD NOT APPLY TO THIS.OKAY. I WAS SAYING I HAD SEEN SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT SHEET IRON COULD ONLY BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE OR SOMETHING I THOUGHT MIGHT BE KIND OF AN UGLY FENCE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE CONTEXT IT WAS USED IN.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS, AND I DIDN'T THINK OF IT UNTIL I SAW THE OVERGROWN PROPERTY PICTURE WAS, IF SOMEONE WANTED, AND I KNOW THIS IS PRIMARILY BUFFERING RELATED THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO IMPLEMENT ZERO SCAPING TYPES OF THINGS WHICH WILL COME UP MORE AND MORE OFTEN AS PEOPLE BECOME ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HOW DOES THAT. DOES THAT PLAY INTO THIS AT ALL OR.
YES, THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE A DISCUSSION ITEM AT THE MONDAY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR ZERO SCAPE. OKAY. REGULATIONS.
WE'RE DOING IT. WE'RE TAKING A SMALL BITE AT THE APPLE AT A TIME.
YEAH, YEAH. TO NOT OVERWHELM EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE'LL GET DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IT IN SEPTEMBER.
AWESOME. WELL, THANKS FOR BEING AHEAD OF THE GAME.
YEAH. QUESTION. LIKE ON THIS PICTURE HERE. SO IT'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
IT'S OVERGROWN. AND THAT'S OKAY. OR IT'S JUST HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
NO IT WILL BE ADDRESSED. OKAY. IF IT HASN'T BEEN ALREADY.
OKAY. OR IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. SO YEAH, IT'S NOT OKAY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING THESE MAINTENANCE REGULATIONS IN THERE.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH IN THERE FOR STAFF TO HAVE A GOOD ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
OKAY. AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO WE DON'T END UP WITH THAT.
RIGHT. IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE. IT'S ANYTHING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
OKAY. IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED. OKAY. THANK YOU.
YES. BUT IT MIGHT NOT HAVE TO BE REPLACED IF IT WAS STRUCTURALLY A DIFFERENT MATERIAL THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY APPROVE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT FROM ONE OF ITS PARENTS.
CORRECT. THAT'S A GOOD DISTINCTION. YES. OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.
OKAY. I THINK STAFF IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, SO.
I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, FOR APPROVAL. OKAY.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AS WRITTEN FROM COMMISSIONER BERUBE.
I'LL SECOND. AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANIER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. NO, NO ONE OPPOSES. SO MOTION CARRIES AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM 5, WHICH ALSO IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
[ITEM 5: Case PD-25-0002. Public hearing, discussion, and action regarding an ordinance amending Ordinance No. 2022-10-28, and Appendix B, “Zoning,” of the City’s Code of Ordinances and the City’s Official Zoning Map to provide for amendments to the current zoning regulations on a tract of approximately 166 +/- acres, the Paloma Trails Planned Development, to update the development standards and the concept plan.]
SO WE'LL OPEN THAT UP AGAIN TO PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:59.MAYBE NOT. OKAY. SO I'LL ENTER OUR STAFF REPORT INTO THE RECORD BY REFERENCE IN ITS ENTIRETY.
THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR PALOMA TRAILS.
AND THE APPROVED PLAN OR PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL OCTOBER OF 2022.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE ONLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND IT'S JUST TO ADD FACADE MATERIAL.
THEY HAD A CERTAIN SECTION OF OF FACADE MATERIAL, BUT THEY WANTED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL FOR SOME OF THE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES THAT WERE COMING IN. SO THEY'VE ADDED A LIST OF FACADE MATERIALS TO BE INCLUDED.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE MATERIALS FOR CANOPIES, ACCESSORIES, AND STOREFRONTS AND ROOFING.
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS WAS TO ADD SOME COMMERCIAL DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE FOR THOSE.
IT WOULD ALLOW TWO SIGNS PER ENTRANCE TO THE LOT.
NO OTHER CHANGES FOR ANY OF THEIR WALL SIGNS OR MONUMENT SIGNS OR POLE SIGNS.
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THERE'S NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THE LAYOUT OR ANY OF THE PLATTING OF THE PROPERTIES.OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LISA. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? TELL US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS BRAD WHITE.
THE PREVIOUSLY IN THE SIGNAGE. THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUILDING MATERIALS WERE JUST BRICK AND STONE.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF VACCARO VENTURES. WE'RE DOING THE 7-ELEVEN ON THIS PROPERTY.
WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR 7-ELEVEN CORPORATE DIRECTLY.
THIS IS PART OF THEIR NEW PROTOTYPE STORE. IT'S ALMOST A IT'S 4800 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
IT'S A MUCH LARGER BUILDING AND IT'S GOT A NICE FACADE TO IT.
THEIR PROTOTYPE STORE HAS A NICE FACADE, VERY APPEALING.
IT JUST DOESN'T FIT WITH WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2022.
AS LISA STATED, THE CODE WILL BE FOLLOWED ON ALL THE OTHER SIGNAGE.
WE JUST WANTED TO ADD A DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, INCREASE THE SIZE OF IT. SO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CARS COMING IN DIFFERENT WAYS. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ENTERING AND EXITING SAFELY.
OKAY. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT. ANYONE ONLINE. ANYBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK.
WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER PEOPLE HERE. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:02 THEN.
AND OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION OR COMMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:02.
I THINK THAT'S IT. I THINK THAT'S TELLING US THAT, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, THEY'RE ALWAYS LISTENING TO US. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT VERBIAGE OF THE METAL PANELS OR SURELY FINISHED METAL PANELS. GOT IT. WHAT IS THAT? I'M GOING TO LET THE DEVELOPER ANSWER. YES. SO THIS IS IT SPECIFIES IT'S PRE FINISHED VERTICALLY INSTALLED METAL PANELING.
IT'S JUST THE ACCENTS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BLACK ON THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, SMALL PORTION ON THE FRONT AND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE SIDES, BUT VERY SMALL PORTIONS OF IT. SO WOULD THOSE BE LIKE POWDER COATED OR PAINTED OR.
YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT HAS NOTHING PARTICULAR TO DO WITH THIS, BUT IS THERE A CURRENT PLAN FOR THE BIG SQUARE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT? YES, IT IS ZONED MULTIPLE FAMILY. SO WE'VE NOT HAD ANY PLANS SUBMITTED YET FROM THE DEVELOPER.
SO THAT'S LIKE A FUTURE PHASE. THAT'S A FUTURE PHASE.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. OKAY. STAFF IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
I'LL OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF.
NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION, SECOND MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CROSS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES AND WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM 6, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF FUTURE BUSINESS.
[ITEM 6: Discussion of future agenda, new business items, staff requests, and potential specialcalled meeting and/or workshop requests: a. As of the agenda posting, the September 2, 2025, meeting currently has one (1) new Planning applications. The submittal deadline was August 4, 2025, at 5:00 p.m.]
WE DO HAVE ONE REPLY AND WE BROUGHT IT IN YESTERDAY.SO RIGHT NOW YESTERDAY WAS THE DEADLINE. BUT IF WE GET IT IN WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO WE COULD HAVE MORE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE ONE FOR THE SEPTEMBER 2ND MEETING.
I SHOULD SAY TWO. NOW YOU'LL HAVE THE ZERO ESCAPE DISCUSSION.
IT WON'T BE AN ORDINANCE FORM FOR YOU YET, BUT IT I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL BE DISCUSSION FOR YOU. SOUNDS GOOD. I'M INTERESTED HERE. OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE MEETING AT 6:05.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.