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WE'LL BRING THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR OUR 530 WORKSHOPS.
SO FIRST UP, WE HAVE THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THE PLANNING AND ZONING OR ZBA TO CALL THEIR MEETINGS TO ORDER AS WELL? OKAY, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:30.
OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ONE OTHER? OPENING. YES, I DID THAT.
THANK YOU, NATE. CONFERENCE CENTER REPORT.
VERY GOOD. OKAY. CURRENT CONDITIONS.
WE HAVE A FULL STAFF RIGHT NOW.
OUR KITCHEN ASSISTANT HAS COME BACK HALF TIME.
WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HER BACK.
AND THEN OUR EMPLOYEE THAT WAS OUT ON WORKMAN'S COMP IS BACK FULL TIME AS WELL.
SO, THE KITCHEN IS QUITE BUSY.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE PICTURES OVER HERE, YOU'LL SEE THE TOP PICTURE IS THE BALLROOM.
BEFORE WE STARTED PAINTING AND DOING A LITTLE COSMETIC WORK.
AND THE BOTTOM PICTURE IS AFTER.
SO WE HAVE UPDATED OUR INTERIOR PAINT.
WE SPENT ABOUT $2,500 ON PAINT.
SO WE WOUND UP SAVING $60,000 ON JUST ON THE PAINT, ON THE PAINT JOB.
WE HAVE A BRAND NEW ROOF AND WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SOUND BOARD.
ALTHOUGH I FELT LIKE WE HAD DONE SOMETHING, SOME OF IT.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAD TO KEEP RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE STAIRS TO LET THE ROOFERS IN AND OUT AND WHATNOT.
OUR PLANS FOR 24, WE WILL BE ADDING A FULL-TIME SOUS CHEF IN APRIL.
SO, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALSO PLAN TO CONTINUE WITH OUR PAINTING.
AND THEY YOU CAN SEE OUT THEM, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IN THEM.
AND YOU SEE IN THIS PICTURE HERE THAT IS JUST A PHOTOSHOP OF SOME CARPET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO REPLACE THE CARPET SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO REPLACE OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
AND THEN WE ALSO JUST HAVE SOME GENERAL SAFETY AND SECURITY RELATED REPAIRS.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY ARE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO IT PUBLICLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO EXPOSE ANY WEAKNESSES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN OUR IN OUR NEXT SLIDE. SALES COMPARISONS.
I NORMALLY DO THIS FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT NATE AND I DECIDED WE'D JUST DO LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR THE PRE COVID STUFF WAS WE MEET DIFFERENTLY AS A SOCIETY. WE HOLD MEETINGS AND TRAININGS A LOT DIFFERENTLY NOW POST COVID AND THEN THE COVID YEARS, OF COURSE.
BUT SO THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT WE ARE UP 23% FROM LAST YEAR IN SALES.
AND SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS COMING UP.
WE DO HAVE A CHILI SUPPER ON OCTOBER 27TH AND WE HAVE OUR THANKSGIVING TO-GO THAT WE WILL BE DOING.
PICK UP YOUR THANKSGIVING DINNER AND THROW IT IN YOUR OVEN THE NEXT DAY AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE, OF COURSE, IS WHAT'S COMING UP.
JOINT CHAMBER IS NEXT WEEK ON THE 19TH.
AND JUDGE CLARK WILL BE GIVING A STATE OF THE COUNTY FOR THE KEYNOTE THERE.
WE DO HAVE A FEW VERY FEW DATES AVAILABLE FOR HOLIDAY PARTIES.
WE'VE MOSTLY BEEN BOOKED FOR DECEMBER SINCE ABOUT MARCH.
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GOOD EVENING. CAN Y'ALL HEAR? OKAY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE MOVED IN TO THE TEMPORARY LOCATION HERE AT COUNCIL CHAMBERS.UM, WE HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES COMING UP THIS MONTH.
WE'VE GOT A COSTUME EXCHANGE THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON THE 20TH IN THE EVENING SO KIDDOS CAN, OR PARENTS CAN BRING THEIR COSTUMES AND THEN SWAP THEM.
SO JUST BRIEFLY, OUR CORE BUSINESS, THIS IS THE LAST QUARTER, JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER, AND ALSO THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR, OCTOBER THROUGH SEPTEMBER. SO, I'LL JUST DO THE ANNUAL MATERIALS CHECK OUT WAS 89,000 ITEMS WERE CHECKED OUT AND CIRCULATED THROUGH THE LIBRARY.
WITH OUR CONSORTIUM, WE SENT OUT TO OTHER LIBRARIES 3630 ITEMS, AND THEN OUR PATRONS REQUESTED IN OVER 4000 ITEMS AND WE HAVE ISSUED 1818 NEW CARDS.
SO FOR OUR COMPUTERS, FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED ON, IT'S 3540.
THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ON, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY USED THEM? AND THEN OUR EBOOKS AND AUDIOBOOKS ARE REALLY INCREASING IN USE.
SO, FOR THE PROGRAMS FOR THE YEAR, WE HAD 365 AND 9366 ATTENDEES FOR THE YEAR.
UM, ONE LAST THING IS WE DID RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE REGARDING UNCLAIMED CAPITAL, AND SO THEY ARE OFFERING US $22,981.
IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER FUNDING THAT THEY WILL BE GIVING US.
AND AT THIS TIME, WE'LL DO MAIN STREET.
SORRY. MAIN STREET EXPANSION UPDATE.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF ZOOMS. I HEARD YOU FINE. I'VE HAD SOME ZOOM PHONE CALLS WITH THE TEXAS MAIN STREET CENTER.
AND SO, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT BACK AND FORTH.
A LITTLE DISCUSSION BOTH WAYS.
SO, WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER FROM THEM.
HOPEFULLY NOT TOO MUCH LONGER.
WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH.
AND IF WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE FURTHER THEN OUR DOWNTOWN MAP.
I WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS IS AN OLD VERSION THAT YOU HAVE IN.
I THINK YOU GOT A COPY OF IT UP THERE.
THIS IS THE OLD VERSION. WE'RE REVISING THIS.
SO, IT'S COLOR CODED SO PEOPLE CAN FIND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THEN PROMOTIONS.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK REVIEW ON OUR CAR SHOW SEASON.
IT WAS RAINY, IT WAS HOT, IT WAS HOT.
AND THEN WE HAD PERFECT WEATHER ON SATURDAY.
AND I NEED TO HEAVILY THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR HELP WITH ALL OF THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A VERY BIG LEARNING CURVE, BUT WE LEARNED A LOT AND WE'LL GO FORWARD NEXT MAY AND IMPROVE THAT EVEN MORE AND GET BETTER AND BETTER.
THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM NOW UNTIL SWIRL, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 1ST.
NO, THAT ONE GOES ALL THE WAY TO DECEMBER.
SO YOU HAVE ALL THE DATES FOR THAT COMING UP.
WE HAVE PAINT THE TOWN PINK THIS FRIDAY.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE COMING UP AT THE END OF NOVEMBER, BOO BASH.
SO, IF YOU WANT TO DONATE SOME CANDY, WE'LL TAKE IT.
OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE A SPONSOR, LET ME KNOW.
I CAN SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
THEN. I WANTED TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR FACADE AND SIGN GRANTS.
WE'VE AWARDED $6,000 TO THE COUNTY SEAT FOR THEIR FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, SIGN AND PAINT.
AND BASICALLY THEY IMPROVE THAT FACADE ALL THE WAY AROUND FRONT SIDE AND BACK.
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IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY GREAT.IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT UP CLOSE, GO TAKE A LOOK.
OH, MY GOSH. SO, WE'RE SO CLOSE.
YES, I'M SURE ALL OF US KNEW THAT MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME.
SO IT'S ABOUT CONTINUING ON THE PROCESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MAIN STREET? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT REPORT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS WILL BE OUR QUARTERLY REPORT, THIRD QUARTER FOR 2023.
NEXT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALL TOTALS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS PRETTY MUCH INCREASES ALL ACROSS THE BOARD EXCEPT FOR AS IT RELATES TO ACCIDENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT I MAY HAVE MENTIONED EITHER THE LAST QUARTER REPORT OR THE QUARTER REPORT BEFORE THAT, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO SEE BECAUSE THAT'S A DIRECT CORRELATION AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND OUR ABILITY OF OUR GUYS TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND ENFORCE TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE.
AS FAR AS CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU CAN SEE CURRENTLY TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAD OVER 40,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE ALREADY 230 ACCIDENTS, WHICH WAS DOWN TO WHERE WE WERE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WHICH, LIKE I SAID, IS A POSITIVE THING.
ARRESTS ARE UP, CITATIONS, WARNINGS ARE ALL INCREASES COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND ALSO IN PREVIOUS QUARTERS.
SO AGAIN, DIRECT CORRELATION TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING ON A DAILY BASIS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN AND AROUND OUR COMMUNITY, INCREASED TRAFFIC JUST INCREASED EVERYTHING SPILLS OVER INTO OUR DAILY BUSINESS AS WELL.
AND YOU ALSO HAD AN INCREASE IN STAFF, TOO, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, A LITTLE.
BUT WE'RE ALSO STILL RUNNING SHORTHANDED.
YOU KNOW, ONE PATROL, ONE DISPATCH.
SO WE'RE STILL SHORTHANDED IN THOSE.
WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ADDED ANY NEW POSITIONS PER SE.
WE'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO FILL WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
I WAS THINKING WE HAD MORE HOURS ON THAT.
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HERE IS THIS IS FOR COMMUNICATIONS.
ONE OF THE THINGS GUYS I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF HIT ON BEFORE IS HOW BUSY OUR COMMUNICATIONS IS.
WE'VE CHANGED UP WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
WE'VE TRIED TO GO TO WHERE WE'RE HAVING A MINIMUM OF TWO DISPATCHERS DURING THE DAYTIME.
THAT DOESN'T COUNT, JUST PHONE CALLS.
SOME AGENCIES WILL ACTUALLY LOG JUST PHONE CALLS THAT COME IN.
WE DON'T DO THAT IF THEIR CALLS FOR.
BUT YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE THINGS, OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC STOPS, SECURITY CHECKS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
THERE'S A WHOLE, WHOLE LOT OF OTHER LITTLE CALLS THAT WE DO.
HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU.
THE FIRE SIDE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DISPATCH FIRE, FIRE.
BUT WHAT I'VE DONE ON HERE IS I'VE KIND OF BROKE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO SHOW WHAT HAPPENS.
WELL, TYPICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF IT'S A CALL OUT IN THE COUNTY, THEN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL SWITCH OVER TO THE COUNTY CHANNEL AND COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY DISPATCH A LOT. BUT OUR DISPATCHERS ARE STILL HAVING TO MONITOR WHAT OUR GUYS AND WHAT OUR FIRE GUYS ARE DOING OUT IN THE COUNTY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S JUST INCREASED LOAD AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY'LL DO THEIR REPORT NEXT TIME.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEIR CALLS ARE INCREASING.
ALSO, YOU CAN SEE OVER 2911 CALLS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY OUR DISPATCH IN THE LAST QUARTER AS WELL.
DELVIN, NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU.
AND I KNOW WE JUST WENT THROUGH BUDGET.
WHAT'S OUR PLANS TO GROW IN THAT POSITION AS FAR AS TELECOMMUNICATORS?
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YES, SIR. SO HOPEFULLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS ONCE WE GET THIS LAST DISPATCHER HIRED, THAT WE'RE STILL SHORT IN A VACANT POSITION.AND THEN AT NIGHT TIME WE'LL GO TO ONE.
THE REALITY IS, IS COMING NEXT YEAR, IF YOU'RE ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME COME IN AND ASK FOR ANOTHER DISPATCHER FOR NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THEN WHAT THAT WILL DO IS IS TO BE ABLE TO HELP US TO GO TO HAVING TWO DISPATCHERS 24 HOURS A DAY.
THESE THINGS ARE COMING AS FAR AS IN THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS SIDE.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS IN THE NEW PD AS WELL.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO THE FUTURE WITH THAT GROWTH.
SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO GROW AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO AS A CITY, THAT WILL SET US UP FOR A LONG TERM FUTURE.
AWESOME. THANK YOU. SO AS YOU GO TO THE NEXT JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THIS PAST WEEK, TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD OUR BACK TO BLUE GOLF TOURNAMENT.
YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
BASICALLY, THAT IS OUR ONLY FUNDRAISER THAT WE DO FOR OUR SCHOLARSHIP FUND AND THAT EACH YEAR WE USUALLY WE GIVE OUT MONEY COME SPRING TIME TO GRADUATING SENIORS WHO ARE LOOKING TO PURSUE A CAREER EITHER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE.
WE'RE NICE TO OUR FIRE GUYS AND WE'LL GIVE THEM MONEY TO OR EVEN TO LAWYERS.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BECOMING A LAWYER, WE'LL GIVE YOU MONEY TO HELP YOU GO TO THAT.
AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE'RE GOING TO START PUSHING THOSE NUMBERS UP EVEN MORE TO BE ABLE TO HELP MORE KIDS FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC SAFETY IN THOSE FIELDS. THE OTHER THING IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WAS THIS PAST TUESDAY, ONCE AGAIN A HUGE SUCCESS.
SO BUT OUR GUYS DID A WONDERFUL JOB ON THAT EVENT.
IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS, AS ALWAYS.
THIS YEAR, WE EXPANDED THE KIND OF THE BLUEPRINT OF THE SQUARE AND ACTUALLY TOOK UP THREE SIDES, WHICH FROM EVERYTHING THAT I GOT FROM THE GUYS THAT WERE THERE AS IT WAS REALLY NICE HAVING THOSE THREE SIDES OPEN AND IT WAS STILL PRETTY PACKED, BUT YOU COULD MOVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO, OBVIOUSLY IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT.
BUT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS A HUGE SUCCESS.
I THINK WE DID 16, 1700 HOT DOGS AGAIN.
YEAH, WE DO A LOT OF HOT DOGS UP THERE FOR THAT EVENT.
WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH LOWE'S MARKETPLACE.
THEY PROVIDE ALL THE HOT DOGS AND HOT DOG BUNS FOR US FOR THAT EVENT.
SO JUST A REALLY, REALLY PHENOMENAL JOB OF PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
IS IT MORE HOT DOGS OR MORE PANCAKES? THAT'S A LOT OF HOT DOGS AND PANCAKES EITHER WAY.
YOU CAN'T GO WRONG. WE DON'T BREAK IT DOWN BY CAKE SINCE IT COMES IN A BAG.
SO, I CAN'T REALLY NARROW A NUMBER, BUT IT'S A LOT OF PANCAKES.
IT'S A LOT. NEXT HD AND THEN YOU CAN TALK, AND I'LL TALK.
SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST GOT IN IS AN ALPR TRAILER.
THIS WAS A GRANT FUNDED TRAILER.
THIS IS KIND OF THAT FIRST STEP.
THE ALPR, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, WHAT THAT DOES IS, IS THAT INFORMATION RECORDS YOUR LICENSE PLATE AND THEN IT RUNS THAT LICENSE PLATE THROUGH NCIC. SO, IT WILL NOTIFY US IF IT'S A VEHICLE STOLEN.
IF SOMEBODY WERE TO HAVE WARRANTS AND NOTIFIES US OF SEX OFFENDERS, AMBER ALERTS, ANY OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ALERTS THAT THE STATE'S PUT OUT, ALL OF THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT SYSTEM. SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION REAL TIME RIGHT AWAY IN ALL OF OUR UNITS.
THIS SAME TRAILER OPERATES ON THE EXACT SAME SYSTEM OF OUR IN-CAR CAMERA SYSTEM.
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SO THE GUYS ONCE A HIT, YOU KNOW, A LICENSE PLATE HITS IN THE SYSTEM.IT GOES TO ALL THE UNITS THAT ARE LOGGED ON TO THE CAMERA SYSTEM AND IT'LL NOTIFY THEM EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF HIT IT IS, WHETHER IT'S A STOLEN VEHICLE, WANTED PERSON COULD BE A SEX OFFENDER, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
SO, THIS IS KIND OF, THAT FIRST EARLY STEP INTO THE FUTURE GOAL OF WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAPPEN IS, IS FOR EVERY MAJOR ENTRANCE IN AND OUT OF OUR CITY IS TO HAVE ALPRS FIXED TO WHERE WE'RE CONSTANTLY CAPTURING THAT DATA.
AND THEN ANYBODY THAT COMES IN THE CITY, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT DATA.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TO HELP STATISTICALLY AS FAR AS CRIMES AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TRACK THOSE AND BE ABLE TO CATCH A LOT MORE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAPPEN TO COME TO OUR CITY TO COMMIT CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.
SO, THIS WAS ABOUT $24,000 TOTAL IS WHAT WE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THIS UNIT.
THE OTHER FOUR WE KICKED IN, IT WAS A GRANT, SO 20,000 OF IT CAME FROM A GRANT.
SO, THE THING WITH THIS IS IT'S COMPLETELY MOVABLE.
WE CAN MOVE IT TO DIFFERENT SPOTS.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP IT ACTUALLY HAS A TOWER THAT WILL RAISE UP.
THERE'RE TWO CAMERAS ON THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE VISIBILITY LOOKING THROUGH OUR CAMERA SYSTEM AS WELL.
SO, IT'S KIND OF A TWOFOLD TYPE OF SYSTEM.
WE HAVE THE ALPR ASPECT, PLUS IT ALSO GIVES US SOME EXTRA EYES IN THE SKY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GOOD THAT THIS IS GOING TO COME IN HANDY IS LIKE THE FOOD TRUCK CHALLENGE REUNION, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, TOO, WHERE AGAIN, WE CAN JUST HAVE AN EXTRA SET OF EYES UP AND BE ABLE TO SEE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT OCTOBER 1ST THIS YEAR THROUGH BUDGETING, ONE OF THE THINGS, AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND JUST THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN NEEDING TO BE ABLE TO DO, THIS WAS REALLY SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WOULD TAKE PLACE PROBABLY 2 OR 3 YEARS FROM NOW.
BUT WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, SOME OF THESE THINGS HAD TO HAPPEN NOW.
MANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE MET MICHAEL.
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL GUY, EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT, WONDERFUL LEADER, HAS A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO PASS ON DOWN TO OTHER PEOPLE. THE ENFORCEMENT CAPTAIN, KEITH HILTON.
KEITH HAS BEEN WITH US FOR A LONG TIME.
ANOTHER GREAT GUY HAS DONE A LOT FOR THE PATROL SIDE THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS.
TREMENDOUS ASSET TO US GOING FORWARD AS WELL.
THEN BECAUSE OF THAT VACANCY AS A PATROL SERGEANT JEFF JOYNER, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS FOR SERGEANT TESTING AND JEFF WAS NUMBER TWO ON THAT LIST.
BUT BECAUSE OF HIS PATIENCE AND HIS DILIGENCE, HE CAME UP NUMBER ONE THIS YEAR ON THAT LIST.
SO HE WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT.
THE GOOD THING WITH JEFF IS, IS HE STARTED OUT IN DISPATCH FOR US.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE GREAT THINGS WE'RE SEEING GUYS THAT ARE STEPPING UP THAT WE'RE BEING ABLE TO PROMOTE FROM WITHIN, WHICH IS JUST A GREAT TESTAMENT TO ALL THE GUYS THAT ARE BELOW ME AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT THEY'RE BEING ABLE TO DO WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN LASTLY, AMY BLANKENSHIP, THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OUR SROS CONTINUE TO GROW, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME TYPE OF A SUPERVISOR WITHIN THAT DIVISION.
AND SO AMY BLANKENSHIP, THROUGH THE TESTING AND THROUGH ALL THAT, SHE CAME OUT NUMBER ONE ON THAT.
AND SHE IS EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE.
SHE LOVES THE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL.
SHE WORKS REALLY, REALLY WELL WITH THE ISD.
SO KUDOS TO ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS AND NOT JUST THEM, BUT TO EVERYBODY WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT.
IT TAKES EVERYBODY WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT WORKING TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF.
COULD I VOLUNTEER MY TIME ON THE SIDE? NOT TO BOOST CARS, BUT TO AID AND ASSIST WITH THE.
BUT YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BECOME A LIABILITY.
VERY GOOD. DOES HE HAVE TO BE SOBER? THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE.
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OH, SHOTS FIRED.WHERE'S THAT COMING FROM? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE POLICE CHIEF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON CARPORTS.
I BELIEVE WE'VE ALL OPENED OUR MEETINGS SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START OUR DISCUSSION.
NATE, DO YOU WANT TO LEAD US OFF? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS CONVERSATION RELATED TO CARPORTS ACTUALLY STARTED DURING THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REWRITE PROCESS, WHICH WE WILL BRING TO A FULL END DURING THIS FINAL QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. BUT AT LAST COUNCIL SESSION, A REQUEST WAS MADE BY COUNCIL TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND WE THOUGHT IT MOST APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE PLANNING AND ZONING, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION, BECAUSE AS STAFF BEGAN TO DIVE FURTHER INTO THE REQUEST, IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT THE TOPIC OF CARPORTS KIND OF SPANS A MULTIPLE LAYER OF OUR ORDINANCES AND MULTIPLE LAYER OF OUR OPERATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
STAFF IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH VARIOUS VIEWPOINTS FROM THEIR AREAS OF EXPERTISE, AND THE HOPE WOULD BE WHEN WE ALL WALK AWAY FROM THE MEETING, EVERYBODY'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THEIR THOUGHTS, AND STAFF WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON HOW A DECISION REGARDING CARPORTS MOVING FORWARD WOULD EITHER IMPACT US OR NOT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BASICS IN TERMS OF TEEING IT UP.
AND I BELIEVE WE'LL ALLOW PLANNING MS. DEDRA TO KICK US OFF AND JUST KIND OF TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE ORIGINALLY FILTERED THE CARPORT QUESTION AND THEN KIND OF WHERE IT WENT FROM THERE.
SO, MS. DEDRA? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.
YOU HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND WHAT WE STARTED OUT WITH WAS JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU A HISTORY OF THE REASON BEHIND THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO CARPORTS.
IN 2015, A REWRITE OF OUR ZONING REGULATIONS.
AND AT THAT TIME THE COMMITTEE FOR THE REWRITE CONSISTED BASICALLY OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OUTSIDE FOLKS AS WELL.
AND AT THE TIME, ENCLOSED GARAGES WERE NOT CONSIDERED.
BASICALLY A BETTER QUALITY OF DESIGN.
SO THE THINKING WAS IF WE REMOVE THIS REQUIREMENT FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THEN MAYBE THE CITY'S IMAGE WOULD BE.
A MORE OF AN UPSCALE PERSPECTIVE OR A MORE OF AN UPSCALE VIEWPOINT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONSULTANTS PUT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
BASICALLY, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE BASICALLY SAID THAT CARPORTS WERE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED WHEN THERE WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION. THERE NEEDED TO BE OFF STREET PARKING IN THE FORM OF A TWO CAR GARAGE.
HOWEVER, IF A TWO CAR GARAGE DID EXIST ON THE PREMISE, THEN A CARPORT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
APPEASE THOSE FOLKS WHO WANTED A CARPORT, BUT TO ALSO ENSURE THAT THE GARAGES WERE STILL.
PRESENT. UM, IN TERMS OF DEFINITIONS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, A CARPORT IS DEFINED AS A STRUCTURE THAT IS OPEN ON A MINIMUM OF TWO SIDES AND DESIGNED OR USED TO SHELTER VEHICLES.
A PRIVATE GARAGE IS AN ACCESSORY.
THIS IS ALSO REFERRED TO AS AN ENCLOSED PARKING SPACE.
COULD YOU SCROLL UP, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. DOWN TO THE NEXT PAGE.
IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE READS AS FOLLOWS.
A PERMIT IS REQUIRED IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, INCLUDING SF1 AND SF2, AND ALSO IN TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE PARKING REGULATION IS A MINIMUM OF TWO AND CLOSED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING LINE ON THE SAME LOT AS THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
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SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET THAT REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A CARPORT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.THIS WAS THE INTERPRETATION BY OUR LEGAL AT THAT TIME.
I ALSO MENTIONED IN THE REQUIREMENT ABOVE WITH REGARDS TO TWO FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY THAT THIS PARTICULAR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE HAD TO BE BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING LINE OR ON THE SAME LOT AS THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
WELL, IF IT'S A CARPORT, IT'S ALSO GOT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, FRONT YARD, SIDE YARD AND REAR YARD IF IT'S ATTACHED OR DETACHED. NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
SO WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES TO LOOK AT OR SAMPLES TO TAKE FROM IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE CONCERN WITH REGARDS TO CARPORTS? DOES THE COUNCIL WANT THEM OR NOT? AND IS THE CONCERN WITH THE CURRENT REGULATIONS? SECOND, WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW? CARPORTS? IF I MAY, IF WE CAN PAUSE FOR A MOMENT, LET WAYNE HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND THEN DIVE DEEP INTO QUESTION AND SOME DIRECTION.
OKAY. DOES THAT SOUND ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. DEDRA.
SO, WE'VE DUG INTO THIS REALLY DEEP.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED A FEW PROBLEMS AND A FEW AREAS THAT WE NEED TO GET ADDRESSED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEPS COMING UP IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
CARPORTS DO SOMETIMES CREATE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.
IT'S IN PLACE. IT'S GROWING AND IT'S BECOMING MORE ROBUST AS WE MOVE ALONG.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL THAT'S GOING TO COME ON BOARD LATER IN THE YEAR.
THAT'LL BE SPLITTING TIME BETWEEN BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
A PRETTY GOOD BASIS FOR THAT WITH THE ADOPTED BUILDING CODES THAT WE HAVE.
IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GO WITH IT.
BUT THESE ARE ALL IDEAS THAT WE'D NEED TO GROW AND MANIPULATE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE EXACTLY WHAT DECATUR NEEDS AND HOW WE WANT TO GO WITH THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE THAT WERE PERMITTED IN THE PAST OR INSTALLED WITHOUT A PERMIT.
IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
THE PERMITTING PORTION OF IT, OF COURSE, WOULD CREATE A NEW PERMITTING TYPE THAT WOULD COME IN WITH THIS SO THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THESE STANDARDS AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS.
THERE'S SOME INFORMATIONAL NOTES THAT CAN GO IN PLACE FOR EACH PERMIT TYPE.
AS YOU AS YOU LOG INTO THAT SYSTEM AND WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH IT, IT WILL PROVIDE YOU THOSE INFORMATIONAL NOTES THAT THAT GIVE YOU THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS AND WHAT YOU WANT TO WORK IN THROUGH THERE.
THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT THE DRC CAME UP WITH TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE THE BASIS FOR WHERE WE START WITH THIS AND HOW WE BUILD THE BUILD OUT OF THIS. BUT AS FAR AS THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE BUILDING PORTION OF IT, WE'RE WELL EQUIPPED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. WE'VE JUST GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
WAYNE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO, WE TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AS THEY DRIVE AROUND, AND THEY SEE THINGS.
THEY LEAVE A HANGER ON THE DOOR.
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WE LEAVE ANOTHER HANGER, WE LEAVE THE TEN DAY NOTICE, WE GO TO COURT, WE FIND THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT DOES THAT FINE REALLY HAVE? BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO PULL THEM OVER WITH A NEW SIGN AND GO, HEY, WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATOR IN THE CITY.CAN'T TURN OFF WATER. WE CAN'T TURN OFF SEWER.
WHAT CAN WE REALLY DO TO THEM? WE HAVE THOSE THE CITATIONS AND TO MOVE IT THROUGH COURT.
BUT THAT'S ALSO WHAT OUR BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION COMES INTO PLAY FOR.
WE ALSO HAVE OTHER AVENUES PROVIDED TO US BY LAW, I THINK IS THE TERMINOLOGY THAT'S USED ON THERE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A WARRANT TO GO ON THE PROPERTY TO.
CLEAN THE PROPERTY IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO.
HAVE WE EVER DONE THAT HERE IN THE CITY OF DECATUR? WE HAVE NOT FOR REMOVING ANYTHING FROM CARPORTS OR FROM PROPERTIES OR ANYTHING.
WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT FAR INTO IT.
WE HAVE GONE ON TO PROPERTIES TO MOW THEM.
BUT BUT NO, WE HAVE NOT WENT ON TO REMOVE PERSONAL ITEMS. HOW LONG? I'M SORRY TO GO DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE, BUT.
MOWING WOULD SEEM TO BE A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS, BUT IT'S NOT.
YOU GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHO OWNS IT.
YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT TRESPASSING.
SAY SOMEBODY TURNS IN GRASS THAT'S THREE FEET TALL TODAY.
HOW LONG IS IT BEFORE YOU CAN MOW THAT GRASS, TYPICALLY? I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO TAKE A SECOND TO CONFER WITH WITH RICK TO MAKE SURE THAT I GOT THIS RIGHT.
BUT I'M GOING TO SAY PROBABLY DEPENDING ON NOTIFICATIONS, WE HAVE TO SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS.
LIKE I SAID, WE DO SEND IT OUT.
TODAY'S THE DAY THAT SOMEONE CALLS AND GOES, HEY, MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD IS SIX FEET TALL.
SO WE WOULD START THE PROCESS TODAY.
LOOK UP APPRAISAL DISTRICT PROPERTIES, SEE IF IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY AND WHERE THAT PERSON LIVES.
WE TRY TO MAKE PERSONAL CONTACT WITH THEM.
OKAY. SO THAT USUALLY TAKES A FEW DAYS TO TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
SO SAY 3 TO 5 DAYS WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AT THAT POINT.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING DONE WITHIN A WEEK'S TIME, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE SEND OUT LETTERS.
THE STATE THE STATE REQUIREMENT ON THAT IS THAT WE MAIL THAT NOTIFICATION WHETHER WE SEND IT TO THEM, CERTIFIED MAIL, WHETHER THEY ACTUALLY ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
WE ALSO GO ON THAT PROPERTY WHEN WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT, WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THAT AND WE POST A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY SAYING THAT IS IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE AND THAT WE WILL BE MOWING IT.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY BID IT OUT TO HAVE IT MOWED.
SO PROBABLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 TO 30 DAYS AT A MAX ON THAT.
NOW, THERE'S ONE CAVEAT TO THAT IS ONCE WE'VE AFFECTED NOTICE FOR MOWING LIKE THAT, IF WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PROBLEM WITH THAT LATER IN THE YEAR, WE DO NOT HAVE TO EFFECT NOTICE ANY LONGER.
STATE LAW ALLOWS US TO GO ON THAT PROPERTY AND HOW DO WE GET OUR MONEY BACK? WE FILE LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY, WHICH HAS WORKED VERY WELL SO FAR.
GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT TIME FRAME OR POTENTIAL TIMES? OKAY. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF FACTORS THAT CAN IMPACT THAT AS FAR AS WHEN WE SEND THOSE LETTERS OUT, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE THAT CERTIFICATE CERTIFIED LETTER BACK, THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE.
I TOTALLY I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
OKAY. JUST FOR FOR TIME, I WANT TO KIND OF KEEP US MOVING FORWARD.
SURE THING. SO SO WAYNE WITH THE BIDDING OUT.
WE DON'T HAVE A DO WE HAVE TO BID IT? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE CONTRACTORS WITH THE CITY THAT SHE WANTS IT OR WHO DOESN'T.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM PLANNING AND BUILDING.
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AND THEY THEY'RE A LOT THE PROCESSES ARE A LOT MORE STREAMLINED THAN THEY WERE THIS SAME TIME LAST YEAR WITH RESPECT TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.SO, I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR PLANNING OR BUILDING FROM EITHER COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING OR ZBA OR BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION BEFORE WE DIVE INTO QUESTIONS.
AND SO THE IDEA AGAIN WAS THAT WE COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, KIND OF ALLOWED AND HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT WE HAVE SOME WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME CLEAR DIRECTION.
WELL, AND I WOULD ALSO ADD, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THESE ARE PHRASED WITH COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE DO HAVE OUR PARTNERS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HERE. SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO HAVE INPUT AS THESE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED YOU.
WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK TOO.
SO, IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO DO THE AGENDA OF THE QUESTIONS OR DO YOU? I'LL BE HAPPY TO LEAD US IN THE QUESTIONS AND RECORD THE ANSWERS.
AND I THINK AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO IDENTIFY AT LEAST A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM COUNCIL TO PARTNER WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO CREATE ONE TO GET US TO THE FINISH LINE ON WHATEVER DIRECTION WE'RE AFFORDED AFTER THIS PROCESS.
VERY GOOD QUESTION. ONE WHAT EXACTLY IS THE CONCERN WITH CARPORTS AND WOULD COUNCIL PREFER THEM OR NOT? AND THEN I'LL ASK THE SECOND PART.
ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE THAT THEY WANT TO SHARE? I CAN START. SURE.
THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I WAS HIT WITH PROBABLY MONTHS AFTER TAKING MY COUNCIL SEAT.
AND I HAVE PROBABLY GOTTEN MORE CALLS ABOUT THIS THAN ANY OTHER ISSUE CONSISTENTLY OVER MY TENURE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. AND BASICALLY, IT BOILS DOWN TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY, FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY OWN THE PROPERTY AND THAT WE ARE INFRINGING ON THEIR ABILITY TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY. AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE I LIVE ON TRINITY STREET IN AN OLDER HOME AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ACTUALLY ONE PERSON WAS LOOKING AT A HOUSE THAT'S FOR SALE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THEY DIDN'T BUY IT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PUT UP A CARPORT.
AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THAT.
WE WON'T LET OTHER PEOPLE DO IT AT ALL.
AND SO, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND BETTER DEFINED AND THAT WE DON'T NEED TO PUNISH EVERYBODY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T KEEP THEIR PROPERTY CLEAN.
OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL GO NEXT. AND I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE WHERE I DO LIVE, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THESE CONCERNS.
I WAS ACTUALLY ON P AND Z IN 2015 WHEN WE HELPED COME UP WITH THESE NEW STANDARDS.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THIS IS BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ABUSE THINGS AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE STANDARDS FOR ENCROACHING ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SAY IT'S MY PROPERTY, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT ALL.
WELL, THERE'S STANDARDS WHERE YOU CAN ENCROACH ON YOUR NEIGHBOR.
YOUR PROPERTY CAN'T PUSH UP AGAINST THEIRS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO ABUSE IT.
IT IS GOING TO OPEN. I MEAN, WHEN YOU WANT TO SAY A CAN OF WORMS, IT IS GOING TO BE PANDORA'S BOX THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN AND NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO USE BRICK AND MORTAR AND MAKE A BEAUTIFUL CARPORT.
IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT GETS ORDERED ONLINE AT HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S.
AND THERE'S YOUR DESIGN STANDARDS AND THERE'S YOUR ENGINEERED PATH.
HERE'S MY ENGINEERED PIECE OF PAPER, AND IT SAYS SO RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM.
AND. AND WHEN WE DID IT, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
AND I HATE USING THIS PHRASE AT TIMES.
DO WE WANT TO BE ARGYLE? OR DO WE WANT TO BE AZEL? AND I WANT TO BE ARGYLE.
I WANT TO BE THE CITY THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT, AND ESPECIALLY IN WISE COUNTY.
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AND AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO INCREDIBLE THINGS WITH IT AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK GOOD FOR THEIR HOME.WELL, GUESS WE'RE DOING A ROUNDTABLE.
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING RIGHT DOWN THE LINE.
TYPICALLY I LOOK FOR A 2 OR 3 CAR GARAGE, BUT THEN I ALSO THINK ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS IN LIPSEY.
SO ONCE A WEEK I'LL DRIVE DOWN JAMES, JOHN DEERE PARK, MERVILLE, AND I'LL TAKE A LOOK AROUND.
AND THE ONES THAT I HAVE SEEN DON'T HAVE THINGS UNDERNEATH THEM.
I THINK ONE OF Y'ALL MENTIONED THAT, YES.
WITH HAVING WEATHER AND 110 DEGREES.
YES. I LIKE TO SHADE MY VEHICLE.
I PARK UNDER SHADE. I PARK IN THE GARAGE WHENEVER I CAN.
SO IS IT A CONSIDERATION? YES. BUT THIS DIRECTLY HAS NOT BEEN ANYTHING THAT'S IMPACTED.
SURE. WELL, I WOULD SAY IS I FEEL LIKE ORDINANCES OR STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT FOR COMMUNITY TO HAVE.
I THINK THAT LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY IS IMPORTANT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES IT MAY NOT FIT EVERYBODY'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT HAVING THAT ORDINANCE STANDARD AND HAVING THAT IN PLACE GOING FORWARD AND AND THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE DID IN 2015 AND VOTED IN FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
AND YEAH, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SEEM UNREASONABLE.
SO, I ALSO HAVE NOT BEEN APPROACHED BY ANYBODY LOOKING FOR TO ADD A CARPORT OR TO PURCHASE A HOME. I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PUT CARPORTS UP AND EXACTLY AS COUNCILMAN ALLEN MENTIONED, IT ENCROACHES ON A NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY AND IT IS NOT THE MOST SIGHTLY THING TO HAVE HAPPEN.
I WOULD BE VERY UPSET IF THAT WAS ON MY PROPERTY AS WELL.
AND AS BEEN PREVIOUSLY SAID, NOT EVERYONE CHOOSES TO MATCH THE STANDARDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T REQUIRE CERTAIN MATERIALS FOR FOR BUILDING.
WOULD THAT WOULD THAT IS THERE ANY LENIENCY WITH THAT WITH AN EXISTING CONSTRUCTION.
IF IT IS A MATERIAL THAT IS ALLOWED BY A BUILDING CODE, THEN WE CANNOT PROHIBIT IT.
SO MATCHING MAY NOT OCCUR, BUT AS LONG AS IT'S A MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO LIKE THE ERECTOR SET LOOKING CARPORTS, THEY COULD PUT THAT UP, NO PROBLEM.
THEY DON'T MEET THE SPAN REQUIREMENTS.
WE CANNOT LIMIT WHAT MATERIALS THEY CAN USE FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.
THERE IS ONE SITUATION IN WHICH WE CAN REGULATE THE MATERIALS.
THE INTERPRETATION HAS BEEN THAT IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THEY CAN INDICATE WHAT MATERIALS THEY WANT TO SEE IN THEIR IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT CAN REQUIRE THAT. YEAH, SURE.
YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
NOW THE 2015 RERUN WAS JUST FOR THAT COVER EXISTING THAT COVERED THE WHOLE CITY.
AND I KNOW EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE JUNKING UP CARPORTS.
BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JUNK UP OUR FRONT PORCH AND THERE'S PLENTY OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
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THAT'S THE SAME WAY. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BRING UP ABOUT CARDBOARD.I DON'T THINK I'VE GONE YET, BUT ORIGINALLY I WAS.
I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE PUT CARPORTS UP.
I THINK. I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO NOT HAVING YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT A CARPORT OR A GARAGE.
THAT WOULD BE MY TWO CENTS ON IT.
BUT I'M TORN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I DO LIKE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
I LIKE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.
BUT I ALSO I DON'T LIKE THE HOME DEPOT CARPORTS.
I CAN IF SOMEBODY PUT THAT NEXT TO MY IN A PROPERTY NEXT TO MY HOUSE THAT, WELL, AND I THINK I MEAN I FEEL I'M GOING TO TRY TO SAY THIS I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE HERE FEELS THE SAME WAY.
BUT THEN THERE ARE THE RIGHTS OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OR WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, THAT THERE IS A STANDARD OF RIGHTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING AND HAVE.
AS FOR CONSISTENCY FOR WHAT A CITY LOOKS LIKE AND I THINK IT KIND OF GOES INTO YEARS.
I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THAT SAME CONCEPT.
THIS IS MY YARD. THIS IS MY HOUSE.
WHY CAN'T I PUT A SIX FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT? WELL, BECAUSE WE'VE MADE ORDINANCES THAT YOU CAN'T.
AND A LOT OF IT'S TO DO WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THEM.
AND MAYBE IT GOES BACK INTO A LITTLE BIT OF.
YOU KNOW YOU HAVE FREE SPEECH UNTIL YOU.
YOU KNOW, YOU CALL FIRE IN A MOVIE THEATER.
AND I GET WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, IT'S MY PROPERTY.
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I WANT WITH IT.
BUT THAT'S ALSO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK THAT SIMPLE, UNFORTUNATELY.
YEAH. WAYNE, IF WE DID ATTACHED CARPORTS, LIKE IF IT HAD TO BE ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE STANDARDS? LIKE IF YOU ADDED A CARPORT THAT HAD TO IT ALMOST HAS TO BE AN ADDITION TO YOUR HOUSE, BUT IT HAS TO BE AN ATTACHED CARPORT.
WOULD THAT INCREASE THE STANDARDS? ALSO, WHEN YOU HAVE AN ATTACHED FIXTURE, DOES IT HAVE TO BE FULLY ENCLOSED FOR THE TAX APPRAISER TO COME THROUGH AND SAY, HEY, NO, THIS IS NOT LIVING SPACE, OKAY.
THE PROBLEM, THOUGH, THOUGH, JAKE, WERE YOU GOING TO FALL INTO THAT IS ESPECIALLY ANY PROPERTY THAT MAY BE ONE IN A CARPORT AND THE OLDER AREAS, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PLATTED AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PLATTED.
YEAH, BUT THAT THAT'S THAT'S THEIR CHOICE TO DO.
OKAY, I GET THE CARPORT, BUT THEN I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS ON THE OTHER END.
I THINK WITH RESPECT TO EVERYONE'S OPINION.
WAYNE, COULD YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED DIRECTLY ABOUT ATTACHMENTS AND THEN MAYBE DEDRA, IF YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON THE PROCESS, I THINK WOULD FEED THE SECOND HALF OF THAT QUESTION VERY WELL, WAYNE.
HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S THAT THERE WOULD BE.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE LIMITING DESIGN OF MATERIALS WITH THAT.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD REQUIRE AN ATTACHMENT TO THAT.
IT COULD BE PART OF THE STRUCTURE.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT YOU WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF BY REQUIRING THAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEDRA CAN SPEAK MORE TOWARD THE SUP AND THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY WITH THAT.
AND OF COURSE YOU WANT YOUR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS.
WOULDN'T THAT AND WOULDN'T THAT IMPROVE THE QUALITY? I THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT WHERE YOU COULDN'T JUST GO TO HOME DEPOT.
IT WOULD IMPROVE THE CREATIVITY.
WELL, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY HOPE IT WOULD, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH. WHAT I WAS TELLING WAYNE,
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ABSENT ANY DESIGN STANDARDS, IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, JAKE.THAT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE A BETTER-LOOKING STRUCTURE.
RIGHT. SO, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PREVENT HOW IT LOOKS ESTHETICALLY WITHOUT ANY DESIGN STANDARDS.
NOW, WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM OUR FOLKS THAT.
GO AHEAD. AND THEN LET'S HEAR FROM OUR FOLKS.
HEY, WAYNE. DEDRA. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN CARPORTS IN THE COMMUNITY? LIKE I SAY, THERE'S 7000 PEOPLE IN TOWN.
WHAT? TEN? I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT OR ESCALATED THINGS OR.
OKAY. REWRITING THIS IS IMPORTANT.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THREE OF THREE.
OKAY. I WOULD OFFER WE HAVE ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN AND THEN.
I JUST WAS GOING TO POSE A QUESTION MORE TO WAYNE, JUST FROM HISTORIC VALUES AND ME.
IF YOU CONNECT IT, AREN'T YOU PUSHING ARCHITECTURE OR AN ENGINEER BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT LOADS TO THE WALLS, WHICH IS A HUGE COST TO ANYONE THAT TAKES THAT ON.
SO. THE STANDARDS RIGHT NOW AS THEY STAND TODAY.
IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU HAVE TO ENCLOSED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, YOU CAN HAVE.
A CARPORT. SO YOU MEET THAT MINIMUM STANDARD.
THAT'S. THAT'S WHERE WE'VE WE'VE GONE WITH THAT.
STILL HAVE SETBACKS AND YOU STILL HAVE SETBACKS AND ALL THAT.
SO I HAVE A CARPORT THAT'S IN FOR REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
AND WHAT WE'VE TOLD HIM IS, LOOK, IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY SELF-SUPPORTING.
IT STILL HAS TO BE ATTACHED BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS THAT HE HAS ON THERE.
ONCE IT BECOMES ATTACHED, IT TAKES CARE OF A SETBACK PROBLEM THAT HE HAS, HOWEVER.
EVEN WITH IT BEING ATTACHED, IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY SELF-SUPPORTING.
OKAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO TIE ON TO THEIR TO THEIR FASCIA BOARD FOR A CARPORT.
THAT FASCIA, THE RAFTER TAILS THAT ARE UNDER THERE ARE NOT STRUCTURALLY SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING.
YOU SEE A LOT OF THESE THAT HAVE FALL THAT WILL FALL OR FAIL DURING AN ICE EVENT OR A HEAVY SNOW EVENT, OR WHEN SOMEBODY COMES OFF THEIR ROOF AND STEPS OVER ONTO THAT, THERE'S NO SUPPORT THERE FOR THAT AND IT FALLS.
SO WE DO REQUIRE IT RIGHT NOW TO BE COMPLETELY SELF-SUPPORTING.
SO IT TAKES IT AWAY FROM THE WALLS.
BUT YES, IF THAT WERE TO IF THEY WERE TO TIE ON TO THAT, WE'D WANT IT ENGINEERED.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT WENT IN RECENTLY.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A PATIO COVERED.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU COULD TAKE THE FRAME LOT, METAL FRAME CARPORTS BUTTED UP NEXT TO A HOUSE AND PUT SUPPORTING SCREWS IN THROUGH THAT AND WELL NOW IT'S ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE AND THAT'S THAT THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD GO WHEN YOU SAY A PATIO COVER.
SO, I THINK ABOUT MY PERGOLA IN THE BACKGROUND.
BUT THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WANTED TO IN THEIR BACKYARD PUT A CARPORT.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE A COVERED PATIO.
OKAY. AND AND SO THEY DIDN'T WANT THE POST UP NEXT TO THE HOUSE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT INTERFERENCE THERE.
THEY WENT OUT AND THEY FOUND IT'S CALLED A SKYJACK.
THEY TIE STRAIGHT INTO THE TOP PLATE OF THE OUTSIDE WALL AND IT COMES OUT.
IT'S GOT A WEATHERPROOF BOOT THAT SITS ON TOP OF IT.
IT'S A REALLY NEAT DEAL. IT'S BEEN COMPLETELY TESTED.
SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER, YOU GAVE ME A LITTLE HOPE FOR MY CONSTITUENTS IN THAT YOU SAID THAT THE WAY THAT WE WRITE THIS AND LOOK AT THIS AND THEN NOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY WAY TO GET AROUND ALL OF THIS.
SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T WORK OUT HERE.
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THERE IS, MAYBE I COULD WEIGH IN.I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. REEVES. FOR ME, IN GETTING THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, ALL OF THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD SO FAR AT GAINING A LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING FOR CONCERN OR NEED FOR CARPORTS.
THE THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS STILL YET TO BE ANSWERED AND WE'LL GET THERE.
I FEEL LIKE, DOES THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY WANT THEM OR NOT? BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE VALUABLE NOW TO SWITCH TO OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT AND ASK IF THEY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK RELATED TO THEIR CONCERNS FOR OR AGAINST CARPORTS. QUESTION ONE REALLY IS A KEYSTONE.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I DIRECTLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
MRS REEVES. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO SWITCH TO HEARING FEEDBACK FROM OUR PARTNERS.
IF YOU WOULD OPEN UP YOUR MIC AND MAKE MAKE COMMENT AND GO AROUND.
SO THAT WAS ONE AVENUE TO CONTROL ESTHETICS.
THEY DID. THEY REGULATED THE WIND LOADS SUFFICIENTLY HIGH AND I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND GOT INVOLVED IN REVIEWING SOME OF THESE THINGS. THE WIND LOADS THEY WERE USING ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'D SEE IN COASTAL REGIONS FOR HURRICANE, AND THAT DID DICTATE WHAT MATERIALS YOU HAD TO USE.
DENTON DID REQUIRE A LOT OF ENGINEERING.
YOU HAD TO HAVE ENGINEERED SEALED DESIGNS THAT HELPED PRECLUDE I'M GOING TO GO ORDER IT ONLINE AND PUT IT UP FRIDAY NIGHT WITH SOME FRIENDS AND THEN IF YOU DID.
THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN CURRENTLY.
YOU KNOW, WAYNE, I WANTED TO ASK.
COULD I NOT JUST ORDER SOMETHING FROM HOME DEPOT? THE WAY IT IS NOW AND PUT SIDING ON THREE SIDES AND CALL IT A GARAGE? I MEAN, COULDN'T I JUST GET SOME TEN SHEDDING AND TEN SIDING AND CALL IT A GARAGE AND BYPASS THIS? YES. IF YOU CAN'T CONTROL MATERIALS? THAT'S CORRECT. SO I MIGHT SAY LOOK AT REGULATING THE WIND LOADS ON IT.
AND SO, YOU GET THE DESIRED EFFECT.
AND THEN PARTS OF THIS TOWN, I THINK MAYBE LOOK AT HISTORIC PRESERVATION STATUS, AT LEAST FOR ESTHETIC STREET. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DENTON, JUST NORTH OF UNT, HICKORY STREET WEST OAK AREA, HAVE THAT STATUS SO HOMEOWNERS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT INSIDE THE HOUSE.
BUT IF IT'S FRONT FACING THE STREET, THEY GOT DOWN TO EVEN REVIEWING PAINT COLORS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO GO THAT FAR, BUT IT HELPED CONTROL ESTHETICS.
SO, WAYNE, I GUESS YOU'VE KIND OF CLARIFIED.
I COULD JUST PUT UP NETTING ON THREE SIDES OF MY HOME DEPOT SHED.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'D DO NETTING.
I THINK MOST OF THE THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED THAT I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ERECTOR SET CARPORTS AS WELL.
RIGHT? SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO DEFINE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PORTA CACHÉ AND A CARPORT.
YOU'D HAVE A GARAGE OR NOT HAD A GARAGE AS WELL.
SO THAT I GUESS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT AS WELL.
SO, WILL YOU? DID YOU GET A PERMIT FOR, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
THAT WAS FORMER COUNCILMAN BOND'S HOUSE.
IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT TIME.
MAYBE. BUT I THINK MAYBE SHORTLY AFTER 2016, IT DOES HAVE A GARAGE, SO IT DOES HAVE A THREE GARAGE.
SO I THINK IT PROBABLY IT WAS ALL ONE STRUCTURE.
YEAH. SO ARE YOU FOR CARPORTS OR AGAINST IT OR WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO.
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I KNOW. I'M TRYING. I HONESTLY, I'M NOT AGAINST CARPORTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BAROODY BROUGHT UP THE, THE.HOW DO YOU. HOW DO YOU CONTROL, YOU KNOW, UM, STORAGE WITHIN THAT.
AND I REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
AND, AND I THINK ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN VALID AND WELL THOUGHT OUT.
THAT'S. I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT TO BE CLEAN.
YOU KNOW, SO BUT I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY, I'M NOT AGAINST CARPORTS, JUST ESTHETICALLY, YOU KNOW.
THANK YOU, WILL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A GOOD ANSWER TO THIS PERIOD.
AND IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN MIGHT NOT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE STATE STATUTE MAY HAVE BEEN ADOPTED AFTER DENTON DID THAT. AND IT MAY BE THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
I WAS WONDERING THAT SAME THING.
SO I DOUBT THAT THAT'S THAT SOUNDS LIKE MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH, GIVEN THE THERE ARE A FEW AREAS OF DECATUR THAT ARE FAIRLY HISTORIC, BUT THEY'RE NOT MANY AND THEY'RE FAIRLY SMALL. I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU, EDDIE IN TERMS OF WANTING DECATUR TO LOOK NICER, BUT I PROBABLY COME DOWN MORE ON THE SIDE OF PEOPLE IF THEY IF THEY BUILD A STRUCTURALLY SOUND ENGINEERED CARPORT.
I ALSO THINK THAT IN TERMS OF.
CLIMATE. WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE JUST GOING TO GET WORSE.
SUMMERS ARE GOING TO GET HOTTER AND STAY HOTTER LONGER.
THAT DAMAGE IS CAR PAINT JOBS.
STORMS ARE GOING TO GET WORSE.
THERE WILL BE MORE HAIL STORMS, WIND STORMS, THAT AS FAR AS INCREASING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS THAT WE APPLY TO THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HOLD BETTER WIND LOADS.
THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME THAT WE SHOULD PERHAPS DO THAT.
SO, THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO EVEN MAKE A RUN FOR THE FRONT DOOR.
I WOULD PROBABLY COME DOWN ON THE SIDE OF ALLOWING MORE CARPORTS.
I'M THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMITTEE.
I CAME TO DECATUR FOUR YEARS AGO FROM ARLINGTON.
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT RULES IN ARLINGTON, YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM.
I HOPE THAT I GET TO THE POINT WHERE I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CARPORTS BECAUSE I AGREE WITH EDDIE, AND I GOT ON THIS BOARD AND THE COMMISSION FOR AND ESPECIALLY THE COMMISSION FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON I WANT TO SEE DECATUR. BETTER LOOKING THAN IT IS TODAY.
AND I'M ON A COMMITTEE THAT CAN HELP DO THAT.
AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH CARPORTS IS VERY LIMITED TO EXPERIENCES, BASICALLY.
FORMER MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, CARMELINA HOLLOWAY, PUT CARPORTS IN HER HOUSE YEARS AGO.
JUST RECENTLY, MRS. CROSS SOLD A HOME IN BROOKHOLLOW ON BROOKHOLLOW DRIVE.
IT. HAS A METAL STEEL POST CARPORT IN FRONT OF IT ON THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE.
AS I GOT TO LOOK AT IT, THAT THING.
I WAS JUST BRUTALLY HONEST WITH THE GUY THAT BOUGHT IT.
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I SAID, LOOKS LIKE AN ALBATROSS TO ME.IT LOOKS LIKE WAY OVERENGINEERED AND WAY OVERKILL.
WELL, THE GUY THAT DOES WORK FOR HIM CAME BACK AND TOLD ME, HE SAID, I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT THING OUT.
I'M LIKE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT STILL STICKS WAY OUT ON THAT HOUSE.
BUT WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
I DON'T BLAME THOSE PEOPLE FOR.
PUTTING A CARPORT ON THEIR HOUSE OR ANYBODY FOR PUTTING A CARPORT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
IF THEY WANT THEIR CAR IS SHADED, IT JUST MAKES PERFECT SENSE IN TEXAS.
NOW, IF I'M IN WASHINGTON OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT, IT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER.
BUT I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND AS WE STUDY THE CARPORT THING, I FEEL THAT REASONABLE IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY.
NOW, I'LL GO AHEAD AND BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT THIS TOO.
I LIVE IN SOUTH MARTIN BRANCH.
THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE ANY CAR PORTS IN SOUTH MARTIN BRANCH.
IN DEDRA'S CASE, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
NEITHER ONE OF YOUR HOMES HAVE CARPORTS OR GARAGES, DO THEY? YEAH. I KEEP SCRATCHING MY HEAD SAYING, WHY DON'T YOU, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A DEAL THERE.
AND EVEN I THINK THE CARPORT IS FUNCTIONAL STRICTLY FOR KEEP UP UPKEEP OF A CAR.
AND I FEEL LIKE AS A COMMISSION AND IS A CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS, BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEED YOU NEED ESTHETICS.
AND YOU NEED COMFORT FOR YOUR HOME, MR. CROSS. WELL, I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION IN MAKING IT SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN'T JUST BE THROWN UP.
AND I MEAN, I HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
THEY WANT TO PUT UP REALLY NICE STRUCTURES.
THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY VALUE ON MY HOME AND THEIRS.
AND EVEN IF WE DO GO AHEAD WITH THIS AS PLANNED, COULDN'T PEOPLE STILL ASK FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT AND THEN THESE 5 OR 6 PER YEAR WOULD JUST COME BEFORE THE ZBA? IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE A CARPORT.
YES. AND THAT WE WERE GOING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITH REGARDS TO CARPORTS.
AND IF THERE'S CRITERIA OR CONDITIONS YOU WANT TO PLACE ON IT, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
KIND OF CIRCUMVENT OR TAKE IT OUT OF THE NBA'S HANDS AND INTO THE CITY COUNCILS.
LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM OUR OTHER BOARDS.
JUST WANT TO PUT ADD ONE THING.
I BELIEVE WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PUT CARPORTS IN, BUT THEY WERE NOT TO GO BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE HOUSE ITSELF.
SO SOME HOUSES WERE AT INDENTIONS BACK AND THE CARPORT DIDN'T EXTEND THEM INTO THE FRONT YARD.
THEY WERE STILL ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY COULD HAVE A CARPORT.
BUT THE THE KICKER WAS THAT IF THERE IS A TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY AND IT'S MAINTAINED, THERE WAS NO REASON NOT TO LET THEM HAVE ANOTHER SHELTER FOR OTHER VEHICLES.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES.
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WRITTEN. IF YOU HAVE A GARAGE, TWO CAR GARAGE, YOU CAN HAVE A CARPORT, WHETHER IT'S ATTACHED OR DETACHED.IF IT'S ATTACHED, IT HAS TO MEET THE SAME SETBACKS AS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AS THE HOUSE.
IF IT'S DETACHED, IT HAS TO BE BEHIND WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARDS.
MAYOR I WOULD OFFER A MOMENT TO SWITCH TO OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE ONLINE JOINING US VIA ZOOM.
I THINK A COUPLE OF CHAIRPERSONS ARE ALSO THERE, NAMELY PAST MAYOR MARTIN WOODRUFF.
SO, MAYOR WOODRUFF, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, GO AHEAD.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. YES, SIR.
I ALSO WAS PRESENT DURING THE 2015 REWRITE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT PROJECT TO DO.
PART OF THE WAY THROUGH AND IT TOOK AT LEAST TWICE AS LONG TO GET DONE.
WHEN WE FINALLY GOT TO THE END.
I THINK I WAS THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SHOWED UP AT THE FINAL REVIEW OF THE DRAFT.
UH, AND IT'S SUCH A COMPREHENSIVE, HUGE REWRITE OF A VERY BIG DOCUMENT THAT IT WAS TOUGH FOR ME TO FOLLOW.
BUT I CERTAINLY DID NOT TAKE NOTE OF THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO RESTRICT CAR PORTS.
UH. THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT I DIDN'T TAKE NOTE OF.
I DID NOT SEE, DIDN'T NOTICE THAT GOT PUT INTO THAT CHANGE THAT I HAD.
I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE DOCUMENT.
I WOULD HAVE SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, LET'S LET'S GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME THINGS.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS CHANGE CAME FROM.
PRETTY SURE IT WASN'T COMING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT HERE IS.
SO HERE IS MY THINKING ON, ON THIS WHOLE THING.
OR CAR PORTS TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND UTILIZED IN OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THEY MUST NOT BY THEIR DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION.
BE A. IN ANY WAY BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD.
OH. DESIGNING AND BUILDING STRUCTURES THAT HAVE WIND LOAD.
CONDITIONS WHEN PREVENTION'S ON.
AND WE WE DO NOT NEED STRUCTURES THAT CAN BE UPROOTED, MOVED JUST BY HIGH WIND SPEEDS.
WELL, WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.
WE'VE ALSO GOT TO BE CAREFUL THAT THEY DO NOT ENCROACH UPON NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LINES.
UH, I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO BE OVER ENGINEERED, BUT I THINK OUR BUILDING STANDARDS DEPARTMENT AND PROBABLY COME UP WITH A SET OF STANDARDS, CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS THAT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE AND MEET MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
BUT THEN I REALIZED, NO, WE HAVEN'T.
IF YOU'VE GOT THE TWO CAR GARAGE REQUIREMENT MET.
THEN YOU CAN CONSTRUCT ANOTHER CARPORT.
LIMITING THE NUMBER OF CAR PORTS.
BUT THEY'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO.
THEY'VE GOT TO MEET OTHER PROPERTY REQUIREMENTS FOR.
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND, YOU KNOW.
EXCEPT ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, I GUESS WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE.
UH, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ARE APPROPRIATE.
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UH, IF WE WANT TO PUT SUBS TO CONTROL THIS, UH.ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IF THEY WANT TO PUT MORE THAN ONE CARPORT.
MAYBE THEY WANT TO PUT TWO CARPORTS UP.
THEN. TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT NEIGHBORS.
FEELINGS OR AT LEAST TO GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE ONLY APPARENTLY CARPORTS ARE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
I THINK WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL OR SINGLE FAMILY.
OKAY. FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
BUT JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO COVER THE WHOLE BASE HERE.
RIGHT. THE C1 DISTRICT? YEAH. ANY ANYTHING ELSE, MARTIN? JUST THE C1 DISTRICT, I WOULD SAY, IS THE ONLY DISTRICT.
I WOULD SAY JUST DON'T ALLOW CARPORTS IN, PERIOD.
OVERRIDES. YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS NEED TO PUT UP A CARPORT.
WE HAVE. DID YOU SAY WE HAVE ONE OTHER GUEST ONLINE AROUND? IS ANYONE ELSE JOINING US ONLINE THAT MAY WANT TO OFFER COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.
ONE OF THE THINGS ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR OTHER BOARDS? WHAT? I KIND OF TRY TO DO A CONSENSUS OF WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY AND SEE HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT THIS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THERE IS A WHOLE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WITHIN THE EXISTING CARPORT, MAKING IT INTO A GARAGE OR A GARAGE KIND OF ASPECT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THAT UP FOR SURE.
BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT RESOUNDINGLY SOUNDED LIKE EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE CARPORTS ARE A VIABLE PRODUCT FOR CITIZENS, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET, AGAIN, SOME SORT OF STANDARD OR ORDINANCE COVENANTS, YOU KNOW, FOR SAFETY, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO IN MY OPINION, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR OUR GROUP HERE WITH THE CITY TO MAYBE TAKE THESE KINDS OF COMMENTS AND THIS CONSENSUS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TO TO BUILD US A.
OH, THAT WAS A FUN WORD, WASN'T IT? CRAFT US A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT BUILDS IN THESE KIND OF THINGS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE A CARPORT, BUT ALSO HAS SOME LEVEL OF STANDARD OFFSETS AND THE SAFETY AND THE NOT NECESSARILY THE MATERIALS, BUT THAT IT MEETS CODES OF SOME LEVEL FOR FOR WINDS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND MAYOR, I WOULD JUST ADD OR REQUEST THIS NOW WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME TO APPOINT A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM COUNCIL, A COUPLE OF SERVANTS FROM P AND Z AND OR ZBA AND OR BSK TO PARTNER ALONGSIDE STAFF TO KIND OF MASSAGE THE PROCESS FORWARD AND KEEP IT MOVING BECAUSE IT WILL BE A SIMILAR TO SUBDIVISION.
IT WILL BE KIND OF A LENGTHY PROCESS.
IT WILL REQUIRE A HANDFUL OF MEETINGS.
WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT FROM EACH COMMITTEE WITH EACH BOARD OR COUNCIL? NOT LESS THAN ONE. NOT MORE THAN THREE.
NO. YEAH. TWO FROM EACH WOULD BE IDEAL.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF GOING WITH.
HOW ABOUT ON THE COUNCIL? ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE ON THAT.
ANYONE. SO WE GOT WE GOT TWO VOLUNTEERS HERE.
ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT YOU, WILL? NO, I WAS GOING TO HAVE A COMMENT TO ME.
SO THEY HAD A ONE CAR OR TWO CAR GARAGE.
THEY ENCLOSED IT IN FOR YOU, BOUGHT A SMALLER HOME.
YOU WANT THAT EXTRA FOUR, 600FT².
SO, STALIN, YOU COULDN'T STAY WITH YOUR CARPORT IN THERE.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT GET PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR ON THAT.
KNOW. AND BY THE WAY, IT'S AGAINST CITY ORDINANCE TO ENCLOSE YOUR GARAGE AND THAT'S NOT PERMITTED
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ANYMORE PER THE.I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO SAY EVERYTHING HAS A TIME.
YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WELL, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO BROUGHT UP.
I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S A SITUATION WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE A BLANKET.
AND WHAT IF YOU HAVE A REAR FACING GARAGE? I MEAN, WHY WOULD WHY WOULD THAT NOT LOOK GOOD? IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO REALLY WITH ESTHETICS.
THE CONCERN THERE WAS IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE OFF STREET PARKING, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? IF THERE IS NO SPACE IN THE DRIVEWAY, THEY MAY PARK ON THE STREET.
I'M JUST WHEN I CAME HERE, I BOUGHT A HOME IN BROOK HOLLOW.
IT HAS A DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES WAY DOWN THE THING AND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BACK.
AND YOU PULL IN AND THEN YOU BACK OUT.
I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S NO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR.
EIGHT CARS IN THERE? ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, LET'S LOOK AT A COMMITTEE TO GET TOGETHER.
SO HOW ABOUT ON YOUR SIDE? SO WE GOT TO.
HOPEFULLY WILL AND WILL ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.
ALAN, WILL AND WILL AND DANNY.
IT LOOKS LIKE MR. CROSS HAS A FIVE CAR GARAGE.
I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
SO WE'VE GOT A SUBCOMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THAT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY? I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT A GOOD DIRECTION TO GO AT THIS POINT ON THIS PARTICULAR WORKSHOP ITEM.
AT THIS AT THIS TIME? ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR. YES, SIR.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE REMAINING QUESTIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
SO I APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL ALLOW THEM TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND GET BACK WITH US.
ALL RIGHT. I AM GOING TO CLOSE OUR WORKSHOP AT 657 FROM THE COUNCIL AND SO WE CAN CLOSE OUR.
OKAY. SO WE'LL CLOSE OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
EFFECTIVE. I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR.
AND I'M CLOSING THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION MEETING AT THE SAME TIME.
EXCELLENT. SO WE WILL NOW GO INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING AT 658.
[CALL TO ORDER]
WE'LL CALL THIS TO ORDER AND I'VE.I BELIEVE WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS PRETTY GOOD PACE IN COMPARISON.
NO. IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN A MOMENT.
IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.
AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE HARPER GREGORY TIMMS TO JOIN ME UP FRONT.
MISS. MISS HARPER, DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO US? JUST. SO YOU CAN TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHY YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
I'M HERE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
RIGHT. AND. AND WHO IS YOUR DAD? SCOTT. SCOTT.
AND WHAT DOES SCOTT DO FOR THE CITY? HE DOES PICTURES.
YEAH, HE'S DOING SOME PICTURES.
AND YOU'VE HELPED HIM OUT TODAY WITH SHE PICKED OUT MY PICTURE, SO SHE DID A GOOD JOB.
SO IF YOU WOULD DO US THE PLEASURE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
YEAH. LET'S GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THAT GREAT, GREAT WORK.
FOR AS WHEREAS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT.
HE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THIS.
SO I HAVE A CERTIFICATE IN APPRECIATION FOR YOU DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US IN THIS MUNICIPAL ENDEAVOR, AND WE HOPE THAT WE SEE YOU AGAIN.
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ALL RIGHT. DID WE. DID WE PASS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.[1. CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON A SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DECATUR, ANNEXING THE HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED TERRITORY IDENTIFIED AS BEING AN APPROXIMATE 2.183 ACRE TRACT KNOWN AS A PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF OLD DENTON ROAD GENERALLY BETWEEN THE 1400 BLOCK THROUGH THE 1600 BLOCK OF OLD DENTON ROAD, WISE COUNTY, TEXAS, EXTENDING THE BOUNDARY LIMITS OF THE CITY SO AS TO INCLUDE THE DESCRIBED PROPERTY, AND ADOPTING A SERVICE PLAN. ORDINANCE 2023-10-32]
THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 1032.DO WE HAVE ANY NEW INFORMATION ON THIS? NO NEW INFORMATION ON THIS ITEM, MAYOR.
AND JUST A REMINDER, IT COMPLEMENTS THE PALOMA TRAILS PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023.
ALL RIGHT, MELINDA. GOT IT. SO NICE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[2. CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON A CONTRACT OF SERVICE BETWEEN WISE COUNTY AND THE DECATUR PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR SERVICES AS A COUNTY LIBRARY 2023-2024 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.]
THIS IS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR.THIS YEAR, THE AMOUNT THAT THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING TO THE LIBRARY IS $55,688.75.
SO WE JUST NEED YOUR APPROVAL AND.
OKAY, WELL, LOOK FOR A MOTION.
DON, IS THERE AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR OR IS IT STATUS QUO FROM THE YEAR BEFORE? HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK IT IS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT IT WAS.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER LIBRARY THAT CAME IN THE COUNTY THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY GONE OUT AND SO HE WAS WORKING ON GETTING THE FUNDS FOR EVERYBODY. SO I DID JUST HAVE ONE ONE QUESTION.
KIND OF GOING FOR IT. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE THE ANSWER TONIGHT.
ON THE 89,000 ITEMS THAT WERE CHECKED OUT ARE GONE THROUGH.
WHAT'S THE HOW MANY OF THEM THERE WERE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND HOW WERE CITY OF DECATUR RESIDENTS? I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU IN.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS.
I DON'T THINK WE USE 95% OF THE LIBRARY.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S MORE PARTICIPANTS BEYOND THE CITY BORDER.
GOTCHA. SO THAT'D BE KIND OF INTERESTING STAT.
VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.
AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT.
THAT PASSES. ITEM THREE, CONSIDER TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE NOBLES PROPERTY.
[3. CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FROM KATHY NOBLES FOR A VARIANCE FROM REQUIREMENTS TO INSTALL SIDEWALK ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 301 S. HOLMAN STREET, DECATUR, TEXAS, ALONG WEST SHOEMAKER STREET. (VARIANCE APPLICATION 2023-13—MS. KATHY NOBLES) (THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL, 5-0, CHAIRMAN LEMOND AND COMMISSIONER LANIER ABSENT.) V2023-13]
THIS IS VARIANCE 2023 13.MAYOR DEDRA WILL BE GIVEN THAT REPORT.
THIS WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING.
1520. YEAH, NO URL IF YOU'RE ONLINE, GO AHEAD.
ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR ARE THE SAME PROPERTY WITH SIDEWALK VARIANCE ALONG WEST SHOEMAKER AND SOUTH HOLMAN.
AND FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M GOING TO PARAPHRASE THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, IF THAT'S OKAY.
WHAT I FIND IS THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY.
WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CITY MAPPED IN ABOUT 1898.
A REPLAT IS BEING PREPARED BY THE OWNER IN ORDER TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO EXPAND THE HOUSE.
THE AREA IS GENERALLY BUILT OUT.
SIDEWALKS DO EXIST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY'RE OVER A BLOCK AWAY ON SOUTH STATE STREET.
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OTHERWISE, NO SIDEWALKS EXIST.THE ADDITION OF SIDEWALK ALONG HOLMAN AT THIS PROPERTY WILL NOT LEND TO ANY CONTINUITY OF EXISTING SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY. BUT THE ADDITION OF SIDEWALKS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE OWNER.
BUT ADDING A SIDEWALK HERE WON'T ADD ANY USEFUL PURPOSE.
UH. QUESTION THREE UH, DOES IT AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE? WELFARE OR INJURIOUS TO PROPERTY IN THE AREA? NO SIDEWALKS EXIST ON HOLMAN OR SHOEMAKER WITHIN A BLOCK IN ANY DIRECTION.
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF ANY ACCIDENT REPORTS OF WHERE PEDESTRIANS HAVE BEEN ADVERSELY IMPACTED.
SO WHAT WE SEE IS THE AREA SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY IS GENERALLY BUILT OUT.
ALL RIGHT. SO BOTH BOTH OF THESE VARIANCES 20, 23, 13 AND 14 WERE APPROVED BY PNC.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.
YES. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE VARIANCE 20 2313 SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANCE 2023 AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.
ALL RIGHT. EARL GAVE US A REPORT ON ITEM FOUR.
[4. CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FROM KATHY NOBLES FOR A VARIANCE FROM REQUIREMENTS TO INSTALL SIDEWALK ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 301 S. HOLMAN STREET, DECATUR, TEXAS, ALONG SOUTH HOLMAN STREET. (VARIANCE APPLICATION 2023-14—MS. KATHY NOBLES) (THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL, 5-0, CHAIRMAN LEMOND AND COMMISSIONER LANIER ABSENT.) V2023-14]
THIS IS A VARIANCE 2314.ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANCE 20 2314.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.
ITEM FIVE IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
AS ALWAYS, IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM TO THAT YOU'D LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE DO SO.OTHERWISE, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 708.
[6. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
UNDER 550 101.550 107 FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS, DELIBERATION REGARDING APPOINTMENT EVALUATIONS, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OR OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR OR AN EMPLOYEE EVALUATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU. YOU CANNOT BEAT IT.
OH, THERE'S NO SLOW CLAP FOR YOU.
IT'S ALL IT'S ALL FAST RIGHT NOW.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION AT 806 AND WE'VE CONCLUDED
[7. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]
THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THERE IS NO FURTHER ACTION ON ITEM SEVEN.PUBLIC INPUT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? ALL RIGHT. AND ITEM NINE COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUEST FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED AT 806.
[9. COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.]
THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD WORK DONE TODAY.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.