Oct 03, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission

ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT 5:30 NOW.

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[CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM]

[ITEM 1: Consider and take appropriate action regarding approval of the Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes from August 29, 2023.]

EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THOSE OVER AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS? OKAY. HEARING NOTHING, I WILL.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE MINUTES.

I'LL OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF.

SECOND. A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HICKS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS.

[Items 2 & 3]

WE WILL HEAR TOGETHER.

WE WILL NEED TO VOTE ON THESE SEPARATELY, BUT WE CAN HEAR THOSE TOGETHER.

SO, DEDRA EARL, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

OKAY. SO, THIS IS VARIANCE NUMBER 20, 2313, WHICH IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR SIDEWALK ALONG HOLMAN STREET, I THINK IT WAS IN 2023-14 IS THE VARIANCE REQUEST ALONG SHOEMAKER STREET.

THE PROPERTY IS KNOWN AS 301 SOUTH HOLMAN.

THIS IS BEING REPLATTED AS A LOT ONE BLOCK 54 TARLTON EDITION IN YOUR PACKET THERE'S A MEMO THAT I PREPARED.

WE ASKED FOR QUESTIONS, TO DETERMINE IF THE VARIANCE IS ALLOWABLE.

NUMBER ONE, THAT THERE ARE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES OR CONDITIONS AFFECTING THE LAND INVOLVED, SUCH THAT STRICT APPLICATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF THE REASONABLE USE OF LAND.

AND WHAT I FOUND IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AND SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PROPERTY WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CITY OF DECATUR, MAPPED ABOUT 1898.

THE REPLAT IS BEING PREPARED TO ALLOW THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.

THE AREA IS GENERALLY BUILT OUT.

SIDEWALKS DO EXIST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE ARE OVER A BLOCK AWAY ON SOUTH STATE STREET.

NO SIDEWALKS EXIST ALONG SOUTH HOLMAN STREET OR SHOEMAKER.

THE SECOND QUESTION THE VARIANCE IS NECESSARY FOR PRESERVATION AND ENJOYMENT OF SUBSTANTIAL PROPERTY RIGHT OF THE APPLICANT.

MY FINDING IS, IS THE ADDITION OF SIDEWALK ALONG SOUTH HOLMAN AT THIS PROPERTY WOULD NOT LEND TO ANY CONTINUITY OF SIDEWALKS.

THE ADDITION OF A SIDEWALK ALONG SOUTH HOLMAN OR WEST SHOEMAKER SHOULD NOT AFFECT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE OWNER BUT SERVE NO USEFUL PURPOSE BY PROVIDING ANY CONTINUITY FOR SIDEWALKS.

THE THIRD QUESTION THAT GRANTING THE ISSUANCE OF THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE OR INJURIOUS TO OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA.

MY FINDING IS THAT NO SIDEWALKS EXIST ALONG SOUTH HOMER WELL OR WEST SHOEMAKER WITHIN A BLOCK IN ANY DIRECTION.

IT COULD BE BELIEVED THAT THE ABSENCE OF SIDEWALKS HAS NOT NECESSARILY ADVERSELY IMPACTED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, AS THERE IS NO REPORTED ACCIDENTS.

SOUTH HOLMAN AND WEST SHOEMAKER STREETS ARE CONSIDERED LOCAL STREETS, THEREFORE GRANTING OF A VARIANCE WILL NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE DECATUR 2050 LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN THE FOURTH QUESTION THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL NOT HAVE THE EFFECT OF PREVENTING THE ORDERLY SUBDIVISION OF OTHER LAND IN THE AREA IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE.

MY FINDING IS THAT THE AREAS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY BUILT OUT A FUTURE REPLATTING OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS WOULD OCCUR IN A RANDOM FASHION.

IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT ALL PROPERTIES TO HAVE SIDEWALKS UNLESS THE CITY DID A COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I DIDN'T PREPARE A MAP FOR YOU BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING TO SEE.

OKAY? THERE'S JUST NOTHING TO CLOSE BY TO SHOW YOU.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY FINDINGS.

I'M GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, EARL.

ANY. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM MS..

NOBLES FIRST BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS.

OKAY. NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION, ANYTHING ON THIS ITEM?

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YES. OH, THERE WE GO.

I WASN'T TALKING INTO IT.

SORRY. SO JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, DIDN'T WE REQUIRE SOMEONE TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK? ERIK LANTTO.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T HAVE VERY MANY SIDEWALKS EITHER.

IT HAD SOME HAD SOME.

BUT HE SAID THERE'S ONE WITHIN A BLOCK, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A MAP.

SO. THAT'S MY ONLY THOUGHT IS THAT WE DIDN'T GRANT THAT VARIANCE FOR HIM. DID WE REQUIRE MR. LANTTO TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN MR. LANTTO? YES, WE DID.

BLANCO. IF YOU'LL RECALL, BLANCO HAD AN ADJACENT LOT THAT HAD THE SIDEWALK AND SIGNS THAT THERE WAS.

AND ALSO IT WAS ALONG TRINITY STREET, WHICH IS PART OF THE TRINITY STREET.

YEAH, RIGHT.

MY MEMORY NEEDED A BOOST.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I RECALL IS IT BEING ON TRINITY STREET AND THAT'S THAT WAS THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR FOOT TRAFFIC ALONG TRINITY.

OH, YEAH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? OKAY. TAKING THESE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS VARIANCE REQUEST FOR SIDEWALKS ALONG HOLMAN STREET.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE.

SEND THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS APPROVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CROSS.

I'M SORRY. I WAS THINKING I KNEW YOUR NAME, BUT I WAS TRYING TO THINK.

COMMISSIONER. OKAY. GOING TO GET WORSE.

IT'S GONNA GET WORSE.

I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR THE SAME VARIANCE REQUEST.

EXCEPT ALONG HOLMAN.

NO, SHOEMAKER STREET.

THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER HICKS.

I'LL SECOND IT. NEED A YOU HAVE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY. NON-CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[ITEM 4: PP2023-07 Consider and make a recommendation to City Council regarding a request from Decatur VP, LLC for a preliminary plat of an approximate 89.639-acre tract of land to create 397 lots located east of Deer Park Road and north of West Thompson Street in the City of Decatur, Wise County, Texas for Vista Park Planned Development.]

TABLE IT, BUT THE 30 DAY EXTENSION.

I'M SORRY. I NEED TO USE THE PROPER VERBIAGE.

SO, DEDRA, DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANYTHING OR DO WE JUST NEED TO LOOK FOR LET YOU KNOW IT'S THE VISTA PARK PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THEY RESUBMITTED THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAT.

IF YOU RECALL, YOU GUYS APPROVED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR TOWNHOMES TO BE INCLUDED.

SO THEY'RE ADDRESSING THAT.

THEY STILL HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT THEY WILL NEED TO WITH THEIR PLAT ADDRESS.

SO AND THEY DID SUBMIT A 30 A REQUEST FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION, WHICH WOULD PUT.

YOUR MEETING.

ON OR BEFORE.

WHAT DID WE SAY, CHERYL? NOVEMBER'S SECOND.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.

I MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. YES.

WE WILL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO GRANT THE REQUEST.

AND A VOTE. RIGHT.

JUST WANT TO. DO YOU PROMISE ON HALLOWEEN WE'LL BE THROUGH BEFORE DARK? YEAH. IS WILL DEPEND ON YOU GUYS.

I MEAN, IDEALLY, I WAS.

IT WAS A JOKE. I'M SORRY.

IT FELL ON ITS FACE.

IT WASN'T VERY FUNNY.

OKAY, IDEALLY, IT'LL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER.

APPLICATIONS THAT GET TURNED IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WILL TRY TO GET IT ON THE OCTOBER 31ST SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO THEN TURN AROUND AND HAVE A NOVEMBER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A.

RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR.

NO, IT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S JUST A 30 DAY.

I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR REQUEST FOR A 30-DAY EXTENSION.

THERE WE GO. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WOODRUFF AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HICKS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FOR THE 30 DAY APPROVAL EXTENSION?

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[ITEM 5: Discussion of future agenda new business items, staff requests and potential special called meeting and/or workshop requests: a. A special meeting will be needed once Staff has determined that submittal is complete for: PP2023-04 Vineyards at Decatur, Lot 1, Block 1 b. As of agenda posting, the November 7, 2023, meeting currently has no (0) new Planning applications. Submittal deadline is October 9, 2023, at 5:00 p.m.]

THERE WILL NEED TO BE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE VISTA PARK, ASSUMING THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING ADDRESSED ON OCTOBER 31ST, 5:30 P.M. WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE VINEYARDS, SO THAT WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL MEETING.

HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BE.

BACK-TO-BACK FOR OCTOBER.

OR IS THAT A PLAT? YEAH, THAT'S A PLAT.

AS OF THIS AGENDA, POSTING YOUR NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING, WE'VE NOT GOTTEN ANY APPLICATIONS, OR WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS.

THE DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 9TH.

UM. AND AGAIN, THE NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING WILL BE MOVED TO OCTOBER 31ST.

RIGHT. OKAY.

OH, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT, CHERYL.

IT'S RIGHT HERE ON MY NOTES.

JUST TO REMIND YOU OF THE CARPORTS WORKSHOP ON MONDAY NIGHT, OCTOBER 9TH, 5:30 P.M., FOLLOWING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

AND WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

LIKE A REPORT OF SOME TYPE.

YES, THAT'S THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE.

OKAY OVER THE WEEKEND TO REVIEW AND THE COUNCIL AND THE CBA AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.

OKAY. WITH NO FURTHER AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 5:42.

THANKS SO MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.