Sep 18, 2023 Building Standards Commission Workshop

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AND JUST AS A REMINDER, EVERYONE SHOULD TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONE.

WE'RE CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 3:57 P.M.

[Call to Order ]

[ITEM 1: Discuss and take appropriate action regarding June 21, 2023, Minutes. ]

ITEM ONE IS MINUTES FROM THE 21ST MEETING, AND IF THERE WERE NONE ANY COMMENTS, WE WOULD TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE IN A SECOND AND THEN VOTE ON THEM. SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY. WHO MADE.

SO DANNY MADE THE MOTION AND HE MADE THE MOTION.

AND MR. WOODRUFF, NOT MASON.

PLEASE. COME ON.

OKAY. THIS IS FOR THE.

THIS IS ITEM ONE, CORRECT? AND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MEETING MINUTES? NONE. IF THEY'RE APPROVED, VOTE AYE.

AYE. NO.

NAYS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

THAT'S CLOSED.

WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[ITEM 2: Discuss and take appropriate action regarding July 24, 2023, Minutes. ]

AND IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE IN A SECOND.

I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE JULY 24TH MINUTES.

OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

SAY AYE IF YOU APPROVE THEM.

AYE.

OKAY. THOSE ARE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[ITEM 3: Update on Retail Connections property remediation BSC 23-00014, BSC 23-00110, BSC 23-00013, and BSC 23-00115. ]

WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE OUR BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION MEETING FOR AUGUST FOR LACK OF A QUORUM.

THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM RETAIL CONNECTIONS WAS HERE.

WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH HIM AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF AND SHOW HIM WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING, WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO ACHIEVE OUT OF THIS. WE SUBSEQUENTLY CAME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT TO REMEDIATE THAT.

HE REVIEWED IT HAD ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION ON THERE, AND HE HAS AGREED TO DO THAT.

HE MET US AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT HEARING WHERE THEY HAD BEEN CITED FOR DANGEROUS BUILDING VIOLATIONS AND SIGNED THE AGREEMENT.

IN THE DAYS SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S WENT INTO THIS.

THERE WAS A THREE PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WE ENDED UP WITH, GOT IT FOR THE AGREEMENT TO REMEDIATE.

IT COVERED ALL FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH HERE.

6 TO 1601 ROSE AVENUE, THE CONCRETE BUILDING, 1101 NORTH US HIGHWAY 287, THE OLD RESTAURANT THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE ON THE HIGHWAY AND THEN.

1430 WEST HIGHWAY 380.

AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

AND THEN. 1101 I'M SORRY, 1001 NORTH HIGHWAY TO 87 IS THE OLD AGE VANTAGE BUILDING THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND SO THAT AGREEMENTS IN YOUR PACKET TO LOOK AT I'VE GOT A COPY OF IT HERE IF ANYBODY HAS MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT.

BUT WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THERE.

THERE'S WHERE IT WAS ALL SIGNED AND WE'VE BASICALLY DEFERRED THE COURT CASE UNTIL SIX MONTHS OUT TO ALLOW THEM TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

BUT THEY HAVE A TIME FRAME IN ORDER TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

IF THEY DO NOT ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING THAT'S IN THAT TIME FRAME, THEN ALL OF THESE CASES COME BACK TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.

16 1601 ROSE AVENUE, WHICH IS THE OLD CONCRETE BATCH PLANT THAT'S OUT THERE.

BY OCTOBER 2ND, THEY'RE GOING TO SECURE THE BUILDING, WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE, SECURE THE PROPERTY, THE DRIVE ENTRIES FOR THAT, AND THEN CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING THAT'S GONE ON OUT THERE, SHINGLES AND BUILDING MATERIALS, BRICKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAN ALL OF THAT STUFF OUT OF THERE.

BUT ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY OCTOBER 2ND.

THEY HAVE SECURED THE BUILDING.

I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES FROM THE BEFORE AND AFTER.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THERE WHERE SOME OF THE WINDOWS THAT WERE OPEN BEFORE HAVE BEEN SECURED.

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AND THEN THE FRONT DOOR, YOU SEE THE PADLOCK THAT'S PLACED ON THERE.

SO THAT BUILDING IS WELL UNDERWAY.

WE DID NOT ASK FOR A DEMOLITION OF THIS BUILDING.

IT IS A STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUILDING.

THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH IT.

IT IS A CONCRETE, INSULATED, INSULATED FORM BUILDING.

IT TAKES A LOT TO KNOCK IT DOWN.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY CAUSING ANY ISSUES AS LONG AS IT IS MAINTAINED, SECURED.

AND SO THEY'VE AGREED TO DO THAT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

1101 NORTH US HIGHWAY 287 OLD WESTERN SIZZLIN RESTAURANT.

THAT'S OUT THERE.

THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL DATES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET ON THIS.

IT DOES END UP IN A DEMOLITION OF THAT BUILDING, BUT IT'S ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT.

THIS WAS THE LEAST DAMAGED OF THE BUILDINGS.

WE DO HAVE A PROPERTY CLEANUP THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO TAKE CARE OF ON THERE, SECURE THE BUILDING, SECURE THE PROPERTY AND CLEAN UP THE ILLEGALLY DUMPED MATERIALS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE US AN ASBESTOS SURVEY SO WE KNOW IF THEY HAVE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT TO TAKE CARE OF BY NOVEMBER 1ST AND BY MARCH 1ST, 2024, THEY WILL HAVE THE BUILDING DEMOLISHED.

I'VE TALKED AND TALKED TO THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM RETAIL CONNECTIONS ON THIS.

HE SAYS THAT HE WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION ON THIS AS AS SOON AS HE GETS THE OTHER TWO TAKEN CARE OF.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

BUT HE DOES HAVE UNTIL MARCH 1ST, 2024.

SOME OF THE PICTURES ON THAT.

OF COURSE, THEY HAD TOWARD THE BACK DOOR OFF OF THAT AND THEY'VE SECURED THAT.

THIS WAS THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WAS OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE THAT, BUT THEY TOOK DOWN ALL THAT VEGETATION THAT WAS AROUND THE BUILDING AND OPENED IT UP.

HAD A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE CONCEALING THEMSELVES INSIDE SOME OF THAT VEGETATION AND STAYING UP INSIDE THERE AND COULDN'T REALLY SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING.

AND SO THEY DID.

I THOUGHT WE'D HAD A BRAND NEW BUILDING.

I DROVE OUT THERE AND. WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT IS THAT? OH, THAT'S THE BUILDING BEHIND THE BUSHES.

OKAY. YEAH, I REMEMBER IT NOW.

I DID. I DID USED TO EAT.

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT? THE FRONT DOOR HAD BEEN OPEN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND PEOPLE COME AND GO FROM THAT FOR YEAR THAT'S IN THERE.

IT'S SINCE BEEN PADLOCKED CLOSED.

1001. NORTH US HIGHWAY 287 IS THE VANTAGE BUILDING.

THEY HAD TO START ON ASBESTOS ABATEMENT NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 1ST.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY ABATING THE ASBESTOS OUT OF THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE ON SITE WORKING ON THAT.

AND I BELIEVE TODAY THEY WERE BACK OUT THERE.

SO IT'S BEEN CONTINUOUS FOR ABOUT A WEEK NOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

SO THAT'S COMING.

AND BY DECEMBER 1ST, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE PROPERTY DOWN TO THE FOUNDATION, PROPERTY CLEANED AND PROPERTY SECURED.

AND WHEN WE SAY THE PROPERTY SECURED, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DRIVE ENTRIES.

KEEP HONEST PEOPLE HONEST.

SO WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING IN THERE AND DUMPING OFF STUFF.

YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DRIVE AROUND THAT STUFF.

BUT BUT AT LEAST TRYING TO KEEP THOSE THOSE ENTRIES CLOSED UP AND POSTING NO TRESPASSING SIGNS OUT THERE.

SO THE POLICE HAVE AN AVENUE TO TO WORK ON THAT.

I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES ON THAT ONE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS THE ABATEMENT CREW THAT'S OUT THERE WORKING ON THAT.

NOW, THEY HAVE TO COMPLETELY CLOSE THAT UP IN ORDER TO TO REMOVE THAT ASBESTOS.

STATE INSPECTORS HAVE BEEN ON SITE.

OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, RICK DENNEY, HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND MET WITH WITH THE STATE INSPECTORS ON THE ASBESTOS.

THEY'VE GOT A THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK GOING ON OUT THERE, BUT IT'S BEING CLEARED OUT.

AND IN TALKING TO MR. COOPER, WHO'S THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM RETAIL CONNECTIONS, HE SAYS THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH HAVING MEETING THAT DATE, THAT DECEMBER 1ST DATE FOR DEMOLITION. ON THAT, THE 1430 WEST US HIGHWAY 280 OR 380, IT'S RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY SETS WAY BACK OFF IN THERE. SOME OF YOU I KNOW OF HAVE BEEN OUT THAT DIRECTION AND LOOKING FOR IT.

IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND, BUT IT IS IT'S IN VERY BAD SHAPE RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE HAD A FEW THINGS PICKED UP OUT THERE.

WE KNOW THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE, BUT BUT NO WORK HAS STARTED ON IT YET.

BUT THEY HAVE ENGAGED A COMPANY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THAT DEMOLISHED.

AND THEY'VE BEEN THE RETAIL CONNECTIONS COMPANY HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH US.

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AND ACCORDING TO MR. COOPER, NOVEMBER 1ST IS NOT AN ISSUE TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY TAKEN CARE OF.

I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO EVER ACTUALLY WENT TO DICKIE ELLIOTT'S HOUSE.

THERE'S AN ASPECT BUILT BACKYARD ABOUT 1980.

YEAH, IT'S A NICE POOL IN THE BACKYARD.

I WENT THERE FOR A BIG GOAT BARBECUE ONE TIME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE FOR THAT, FOR THAT EVENT ABOUT 1981, 82.

IT'S A NICE PROPERTY. THE ONLY REASON I KNOW THERE IS A HOUSE BEHIND ALL THOSE TREES.

YEAH. WHENEVER IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE.

YEAH. BUT YEAH, IT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.

BUT THAT ONE SHOULD BE THE FIRST TO GO.

THAT'S THE ONE WE FEEL LIKE IS IS HAS THE THE MOST DANGEROUS SITUATIONS INVOLVED WITH IT.

AND SO WE'VE ASKED THEM TO ACT ON THAT ONE THE QUICKEST AND THEN MOVE TO THE AG VANTAGE BUILDING SHORTLY AFTER THAT AND GET THAT DOWN.

SO WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

NOT TO SAY THAT YOU WON'T SEE THIS AGAIN IF THERE IS A BREACH OF THIS AGREEMENT THAT THEY'VE GIVEN TO US.

THESE DO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN ACT ON THAT HERE.

BUT HOPEFULLY THEY TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.

I'VE BEEN GETTING WEEKLY UPDATES FROM HIM EVER SINCE, EVER SINCE WE'VE HAD OUR AGREEMENT IN PLACE.

SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT LANDSCAPE CHANGE UP THERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

UM, PENDING SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE CASES.

WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED FOUR MORE.

THESE ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.

WE'VE. MADE NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GET SOME ITEMS TAKEN CARE OF AND GET THEM GET THESE PROPERTIES CLEANED UP, GET THEM SECURED.

ALL OF THEM THAT WE KNOW OF ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE SECURED.

SOME OF THEM ARE STILL GOOD STRUCTURES, BUT THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE SECURED ON THAT.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE THAT WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE ACTION BY THE COMMISSION IN ORDER TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME DEMOLITIONS IN PLACE.

BUT WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THESE.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW AS WE AFFECT COMMUNICATION, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS IS A LAST RESORT.

STOP WITH US.

IF WE CAN'T SECURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE WITH THE OWNERS, THEN THIS IS WHERE WE'LL BRING IT.

BUT I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON OUT THERE, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO.

BOTH REACH A MUTUAL MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE AGREEMENT THERE.

THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES, THE ONE ON HALSELL AND THE ONE ON WARD THAT WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFECT NOTICE ON ANYBODY.

AND THOSE BUILDINGS ARE IN REALLY, REALLY BAD SHAPE.

AND SO WE'LL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE.

THE OTHER ONES, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN WE CAN GET SOME OWNER INPUT INTO THAT TO GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.

BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE.

UM, DO HAVE A COUPLE OF APPLICATIONS FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION SO WE CAN TRY TO BOLSTER UP THE NUMBERS HERE AND GET SOME PEOPLE, SOME MORE PEOPLE ON

[ITEM 5: Applications for Building Standards Commission ]

SO WE DO HAVE SOME MORE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, BUT WAS ABLE TO FIND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE REAL QUICK THAT WERE ABLE TO COME IN.

JOE GILLESPIE IS HERE TODAY WITH US.

JOE OWNS TOTAL PLUMBING SOLUTIONS.

LOCAL CONTRACTOR.

I'VE WORKED WITH HIM FOR YEARS HERE AND VERY, VERY GOOD CONTRACTOR THAT I THINK WOULD HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD INPUT WHENEVER IT COMES TO CODES BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT OF OF THIS COMMISSION THAT THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ALONG THE WAY.

AND SO WANTED TO WANTED TO GET SOME CONTRACTORS ON HERE FOR SURE.

SO MAYOR MOHAMMED IS ALSO HERE TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH OUR COMMUNITY? THREE YEARS. ABOUT THREE YEARS.

WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH HIM ON SEVERAL OF HIS PROPERTIES HERE IN TOWN DOING DIFFERENT REMODELS AND WORK.

AND HE'S GOT ANOTHER LARGE COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT'S IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW FOR A LAUNDROMAT DOWN IN THE SHOPPING CENTER OFF OF 287.

AND SO SAMIR'S A BIG PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS.

HE'S BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THE MEETINGS AND SAW THAT THERE WAS A NEED AND AND PUT IN HIS APPLICATION.

AND SO WE'RE TAKING THESE TO TO CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK IN ORDER TO TO TRY TO GET THE NUMBERS BACK UP ON THIS BOARD SO THAT WE HAVE SOME TIME.

IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S OUT, WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING AND GET SOME ACTIONS TAKEN.

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OKAY. WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL ALL THE NOTICES ARE AFFECTED TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY ACTION TAKEN.

[ITEM 6: New and/or future business items.]

WE HELD THIS MEETING SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING AND IT WAS EASY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN.

BUT I WANT TO KEEP YOU UPDATED ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH PROPERTIES.

AND I DON'T WANT TO LET THIS BOARD GO TOO LONG WITHOUT HAVING A MEETING SO THAT EVERYBODY STAYS UP TO DATE WITH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

IF NOTHING HAPPENS, THAT CAUSES A MEETING FOR THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WE WOULD PROBABLY SKIP THE WOULD IT BE THE NOVEMBER MEETING AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BACK IN DECEMBER, BECAUSE WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOME UPDATES BY THEN FOR WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES.

WHAT ABOUT THE OCTOBER MEETING? I'M SORRY, OCTOBER, WE WOULD SKIP THE OCTOBER MEETING AND BE THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO MEET FOR AN UPDATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE AT THIS TIME IS ONLY AN UPDATE.

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO TO GET ANY OF THE NOTICES THAT WE NEED PUT IN PLACE FOR ANY ACTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT, BUT YEAH.

UNLESS IT'S SERIOUS.

I MEAN, YEAH, YEAH.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE, OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS CALL A MEETING TO HANDLE THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW MY PLAN IS TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD UPDATE FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

AND THEN WHEN WILL CITY COUNCIL APPROVE OUR TWO APPLICANTS? I'M PLANNING ON HAVING THEM ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY AND THEY'LL VOTE ON THEM AT THAT TIME.

DOES THAT TAKE TWO READINGS OR DOES THAT JUST ONE APPOINTMENTS? SO IT'S JUST ONE MEETING. SO THEY WOULD BE ON THE BOARD ON THE COMMISSION NEXT NEXT MONDAY.

AND THAT WOULD GO INTO OUR POOL OF BOARD MEMBERS.

YES. SO SPEAKING WITH MARK DUNCUM, HE HE ASKED TO BE MOVED DOWN TO AN ALTERNATE ON THIS.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT SENDING JOE AND AS A AS A STANDARD FULL MEMBER, AND THEN MR. MUHAMMAD WOULD BE THE ALTERNATE MEMBER AT THIS TIME.

AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL ADD IN ON THOSE.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS GOT A PLACE TO SET AT LEAST ONE ALTERNATE IN HERE.

USUALLY MORE CHAIRS UP HERE.

YES, SIR. YEAH. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.

WELL, I GUESS WE JUST CALL IT ADJOURN.

YES, SIR. IT IS 4:15.

MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.