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AND THEN THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO ELECT A VICE CHAIR.
AND WHEN THE VICE CHAIR IS ELECTED, THEY'LL BE ACTING CHAIR.
CHAIRS? DID I JUST NEEDED TO BACK UP FOR A SECOND BECAUSE MAYBE I DIDN'T.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BESIDES WHAT CHERYL JUST SAID.
SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT TURNED HER MICROPHONE ON.
OH, OKAY. I WAS LIKE, I DON'T.
YEAH. THEY'RE PLANNING OUR LIFE, JULIE.
THEY'LL LET US KNOW. I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
PLANNING. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M OKAY.
WITH THAT. JUST TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO DO, AND YOU CAN PLAN ANYTHING YOU WANT.
SO AT THE NEXT MEETING, IF YOU ALL ARE HERE IN PERSON, THEN WE'LL TAKE YOUR OATH OF OFFICE AT THAT TIME, AND THEN YOU'LL SIGN THE DOCUMENT AS WELL.
AND WILL, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'M GOING TO NOMINATE YOU, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT ARE THE TERMS? HOW LONG? YEAH, HOW LONG IS THE SENTENCE? WELL SAID. WAYNE IS LOOKING THAT UP RIGHT NOW.
IS IT A ONE YEAR TERM? IS IT A. IS THERE PAROLE FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR? IT IS PROBABLY AS LONG AS YOU ARE SERVING ON THE COMMISSION, YOU'RE OKAY.
OKAY. AND I WOULD GET ASSISTANCE IN PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES IF I MUCK ANY OF THOSE UP.
THE TERMS OF OFFICE AS DEFINED BY THE ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISH THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION TERMS OF INITIAL COMMISSION MEMBERS TERMS SHALL EXPIRE ON OCTOBER 1ST OF EACH YEAR.
OKAY. THE TERM OF THE EIGHT ALTERNATE MEMBERS SHALL BE FOR TWO YEARS.
THEREAFTER. EACH REGULAR AND ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION SHALL BE APPOINTED.
RECORDING STOPPED FOR A TERM OF TWO YEARS.
SO THE OFFICER POSITIONS ARE ONLY FOR ONE YEAR.
THAT WHAT YOU SAID? OH, THEY CONCUR.
ALONG WITH OUR TERMS. OKAY. AND WHAT WAS IT THAT.
WHAT I WAS I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
THIS IS PAM. LISTEN, I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I JUST GOT.
I HEARD THAT THE RECORDING STOPPED, AND I NEED TO SEE IF CHERYL CAN TURN IT BACK ON.
PAM. IT IS ON ITS WITH SWAGGIT.
THIS WAS JUST A ZOOM RECORDING.
THANK YOU. IT IS BEING RECORDED, THOUGH.
IF I'M PARAPHRASING THAT CORRECTLY.
IT DOES TALK ABOUT ELECTING A CHAIRMAN AND A VICE CHAIRMAN.
LET ME FIND THAT PORTION OF IT.
SO WE MIGHT KEEP THE SAME OFFICERS TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
OKAY. AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT KEEPING THESE MEETINGS REALLY AT THE SAME TIME SLOTS AS THE ZONING.
AND OF COURSE, THIS MEETING WILL GET SMOOTHER AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT.
AND EVERYBODY'S MORE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, INCLUDING ME.
WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 4:12.
[Call to Order]
AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS TO ELECT A CHAIRMAN AND A VICE CHAIRMAN.[ITEM 1:Elect a Chairman and a Vice-Chairman.]
AND SO LET ME BEGIN BY MAKING A MOTION TO ELECT WILL [INAUDIBLE] AS OUR CHAIRMAN.[00:05:01]
AND I DO APOLOGIZE THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS THAT HAVE THE AGENDA THAT'S THERE BEFORE THEM, ITEM ONE AND ITEM TWO ARE NOT THERE.BUT THE FIRST ONE ON HERE, IT'S ON THAT ONE.
NOT ON THE HANDOUTS THAT I GAVE OUT.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THAT ON THERE.
I HEAR A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MS. CROSS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE.
ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO A VICE CHAIRMAN.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE NEW VICE CHAIRMAN TO BE MASON KLEINSMITH.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. WOODRUFF.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, MASON.
THIS IS AN IN-PERSON AND VIDEO CONFERENCE MEETING.
ACTUALLY, SHOULD MASON BE READING THIS NOW? THAT WOULD.
BE THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE THE I THINK.
IF YOU JOIN THE MEETING VIA VIDEO CONFERENCING AND WANT TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON AN AGENDA ITEM, YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON HOLD UP YOUR HAND WHEN THE CHAIRMAN CALLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AND WILL BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE COMMENTS REGARDING THE POSTED AGENDA ITEM FOR WHICH THE REQUEST TO SPEAK WAS SUBMITTED.
THE THREE MINUTE TIME PERIOD WILL BE EXTENDED TO SIX MINUTES IF A TRANSLATOR IS REQUIRED FOR A NON-ENGLISH SPEAKER TO COMMUNICATE HIS OR HER COMMENTS REGARDING THE POSTED AGENDA ITEM FOR WHICH THE REQUEST TO SPEAK WAS FILED.
PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER.
ITEM TWO TO DISCUSS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
[ITEM 2: Discuss and take appropriate action regarding June 21, 2023, Minutes.]
REGARDING JUNE 21ST MINUTES OF 2023.AGENDAS ARE THE MINUTES ARE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET FOR YOUR REVIEW.
[ITEM 3:Consider and take appropriate action to make a recommendation to City Council for an amendment to the Article IV Unsafe, Dangerous or Hazardous Buildings and Structures Section 10-111 Minimum Property Standards to provide for basic minimum services, specifically water, sewer and electricity, to be required as minimum property standards.]
TO ARTICLE FOUR UNSAFE, DANGEROUS OR HAZARDOUS BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES.SECTION TEN DASH 111 MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS TO PROVIDE FOR BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES, SPECIFICALLY WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRICITY TO BE REQUIRED AS MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS.
CONTINUING ON TO PROVIDE BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES TO MAINTAIN A SAFE AND SANITARY PROPERTY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO HOT AND COLD RUNNING WATER CONNECTION TO REQUIRED WATER SERVICES.
CONNECTION TO REQUIRED SANITARY SEWER.
AND LASTLY, MINIMUM PLUMBING FIXTURES AS REQUIRED BY ADOPTED CODE.
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU REMEMBER, WHENEVER WE DISCUSSED THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE.
WE DISCUSSED THE ROLES OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION UNDER SECTION TEN 104, AUTHORITY.
NUMBER C IS SERVE AS AN ADVISOR TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND OR FIRE CHIEF.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE TODAY.
JUST SOMEONE TO LAY ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON.
OF COURSE, THE MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS IS THE REALM OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.
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MINIMUM SERVICES WERE NOT IN WITH THOSE MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS.SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CORRECT THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.
IT'LL GO BEFORE THEM FOR A VOTE FOR TO AMEND THIS SECTION OF THE CODE IN ORDER TO GET THIS PORTION OF IT IN THERE, BUT WANTED YOU TO LOOK AT IT SINCE THIS IS YOUR REALM AND WHAT YOU'LL BE DEALING WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADJUSTMENTS OR OTHER COMMENTS FOR WHAT WE HAD PUT IN HERE.
SO IN MY BUSINESS WITH TENANTS, IT'S FAIRLY COMMON THAT THERE CAN BE PERIODS OF TIME WHERE WE TURN OFF SOME OF THESE SERVICES IN BETWEEN TENANTS.
YES, SIR. HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? THOSE THAT'S AN UNOCCUPIED STRUCTURE.
SO IT'S NOT YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO KEEP UP THOSE MINIMUM STANDARDS.
THE CONNECTIONS HAVE TO REMAIN.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE OPERATIONAL.
IT'S WHEN THEY'RE HABIT, WHEN THEY'RE HABITABLE, THAT'S OKAY.
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE THEM HABITABLE.
SO THE OWNER SHALL AT ALL TIMES MAINTAINING HIS PROPERTY AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE MINIMUM STANDARDS SET FORTH HEREIN, AS WELL AS THE BUILDING, PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES ADOPTED.
AND THIS IS FOR HABITABLE STRUCTURES.
FIRST ONE TO YOU, WAYNE, IS THAT ALL OF THEM? WELL. SO THERE'S IF.
YOU LEFT ANYTHING OUT THAT THEY DISCOVER ANYTHING LATER, I SAID, OH, I.
AND THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS ADEQUATE IS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CODE.
MECHANICAL OR ELECTRICAL OR WHATEVER.
YEAH. YES. AND MINIMUM PLUMBING FIXTURES.
AND WOULD ALL OF THOSE BE JUST ADOPTED THROUGH REFERENCE IN THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE? LIKE THE CITY HAVE THE OVERALL BUILDING CODE AS THE IRC.
THAT'S THE IRC AND ALSO THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE.
INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE.
SO THE EYE CODES, YES, IT WOULD ALL BE ROLLED IN THROUGH THE IRC BY REFERENCE.
IT WOULD DRAW IN ALL THE OTHER EYE CODES AS.
WELL AS THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE.
WHATEVER CODES THE CITY HAS ADOPTED.
THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S ALL ADOPTED CODES.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.
AND WE DO HAVE WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE A LOT OF THE ISSUES WITHOUT THIS.
BUT THIS GIVES US SOMETHING TO POINT BACK TO AND SAY, HERE'S YOUR BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES IN GENERAL.
BUT IT MAY BE THAT BUILDING, THAT RENTAL PROPERTY HASN'T HAD ANY PERMITS PULLED ON IT FOR YEARS AT A TIME AND DOESN'T HAVE THESE BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO POINT BACK TO AT THAT POINT.
THIS GIVES US SOMETHING TO POINT BACK TO.
THIS IS CUT IT OUT AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT HASN'T HAD THAT SERVICE IN YEARS AND WE DISCOVER IT AND THEN IT'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE IT CAN BE OCCUPIED.\ WE'VE ONLY HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT BACK UNDER MY PURVIEW FOR ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF NOW.
AND SO HAVEN'T DEALT WITH IT A LOT HERE.
I'VE DEALT WITH IT IN OTHER CITIES.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND THESE THINGS.
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NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BILL OR NOT, THAT'S BETWEEN THE OWNERS AND THE TENANT, THAT WORKS OUT WITH THEM.BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PROVIDE THESE.
BUT IT IS THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THESE BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES.
DO WE NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING? DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL AS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THIS.
THEY FEEL LIKE THESE ARE APPROPRIATE AND AND NEED TO BE ADDED TO THIS SECTION.
OKAY. WELL, MR. VICE CHAIR, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE.
I'M OPEN TO A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM THREE.
AS VICE-CHAIR, I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THESE BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES AS DEFINED HERE IN OUR MEETING AGENDA TODAY, TO BE ADDED TO THE APPROPRIATE SECTION 10-111 MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
WE HAVE APPROVED AGENDA ITEM THREE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR.
[ITEM 4: Discuss and approve 2023 Meeting Schedule.]
LASTLY, THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR 2023 HERE.IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT DATES FOR A CHANGE TO AUGUST 16TH, WHICH IS ON A WEDNESDAY, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, MONDAY, OCTOBER 16TH, NOVEMBER 20TH AND DECEMBER 18TH.
WE WILL DEFINITELY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 16TH IF THE COMMISSIONS.
I DID MOVE THAT OUTSIDE OF THE REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE AT THE TIME WASN'T SURE IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AND THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH FOUR PROPERTIES ON IT AND DON'T WANT TO RUN TOO LONG, BACK TO BACK MEETINGS ON THAT.
AND THAT WAS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN AFFECTED YET, BUT THEY WILL BE SHORTLY.
THE PROPOSED TIME GOING TO BE.
AS A NOTE, I THINK I WILL UNFORTUNATELY NOT BE AVAILABLE AUGUST 16TH FOR THAT SPECIFIC MEETING.
WE COULD DO IT MONDAY, BUT I'LL BE OUT FROM THE 16TH FOR THE NEXT TEN DAYS, ROUGHLY.
WHICH MONDAY? THAT MONDAY BEFORE THE 16TH.
WE'RE DOING BACK TO BACK FROM ZBA TO THAT WOULD WORK BUT I'M OUT THAT WEDNESDAY.
FOR STANDARD ZBA MEETINGS ON THE 21ST.
LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT MOST OF THAT WEEK AND WE POSTPONE IT A WEEK.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE DATE? AUGUST 14TH.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
YOU HAVE YOUR TEN DAYS NOTIFICATION SO I.
CAN STILL GET MY TEN DAYS IN THERE.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.
THAT STILL PUTS IT AT THE FOURTH.
I CAN STILL BE IN THE PAPER ON THE SECOND AND BE GOOD.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO RE NOTICE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A AMENDMENT
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OUT TO THAT SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE.BE OUT? YEAH. SO FAR I'VE BEEN OUT FOR ALL OF THEM.
I'M. I'LL BE HOME THE EVENING OF THE 21ST.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS POSTPONED BEYOND THAT.
CAN WE HAVE IT THE NEXT WEEK? THAT'S TOO LATE.
DON'T THINK I CAN DO NEXT WEEK.
I'VE GOT A NEWSPAPER NOTICE REQUIREMENT HAS TO BE AT LEAST TEN DAYS.
AT THE 23RD. POSTPONING IT A WEEK.
SO GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL WEEK TO GET IT.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID, LIKE THE NEXT WEEK.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE BACK.
AT THAT POINT. I WILL STILL BE OUT.
WHEN WILL YOU GET BACK? THE 16TH IS MY FIRST DAY THAT I LEAVE AND THEN I GET BACK ON THE 26TH.
OKAY. SO IT COULD BE THE 28TH.
YEAH, EITHER THE 28TH OR THE 14TH WOULD BOTH WORK FOR ME PERSONALLY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THE 28TH? AND I'M.
GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING LOOK GOOD.
THE AUGUST 16TH AMENDMENT TO AUGUST THE 28TH.
BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONTACT THAT PROPERTY OWNER BY PHONE OR EMAIL WITH ANY CERTAINTY.
WE SEND THEM, BUT DON'T KNOW THAT THEY GET THEM.
HEY, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE HERE.
IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THEM TO BE HERE.
THEY WILL HAVE A COURT DATE PRIOR TO THAT IN MUNICIPAL COURT.
AND SO I WILL MAKE SURE AND BE HERE ON THAT MUNICIPAL COURT DATE TO NOTIFY THEM IN PERSON.
WHEN IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT MIGHT BE RESOLVED? WE DISCUSSED THIS MORNING.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO JUST ACCEPT THEM SAYING THAT THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.
I WANT TO GET A PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM THEM AND ON RECORD FOR WHAT THEIR PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD.
OKAY. WE'VE HAD THIS TOO MANY TIMES WHERE THEY'VE SET A DEADLINE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS AND THEN THEY STOP RESPONDING TO US.
AND SO IT BECOMES HARD TO AFFECT ALL OF THOSE NOTICES.
SO WE'D LIKE TO GET SOMETHING SOLIDLY PUT ON PUBLIC RECORD AS TO WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.
NOW, IF THE BUILDINGS ARE REMOVED BETWEEN NOW AND THE DATE, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WOULD RESOLVE THE SITUATION.
IF THEY ACTUALLY TOOK THE ACTION, YES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE SCHEDULE? OKAY. REST OF THEM FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE ON THAT.
THIS ONE IS KIND OF A LARGE BITE OFF THAT WE TOOK FOR THE FIRST ONE AND SO FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO KIND OF MOVE IT AROUND SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE LONG, SUPER LONG MEETINGS.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND WE'LL HANDLE THOSE ONE AT A TIME ON THESE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. ALL RIGHT.
VERY GOOD SINCE WE DON'T NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM FOUR WITH THE ONLY CHANGE BEING THE UPDATE TO THE AMENDED AUGUST 28TH MEETING.
HEARING NONE. WE'VE APPROVED AGENDA ITEM FOUR MEETING SCHEDULE.
CAN YOU PLEASE SAY WHO MADE THE MOTION AND WHO SECONDED IT? YES, SIR.
I MADE THE MOTION AND MR. WOODRUFF.
DUNCUM MADE THE MOTION AND MR. WOODRUFF MADE THE SECOND.
I'LL GET BETTER AS I GO, I PROMISE.
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AN AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS JUST THE IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE DISCUSSION THAT WE JUST HAD THAT WE WILL HAVE FOUR PROPERTIES.[ITEM 5: New and/or future business items.]
THEY ARE ALL OWNED BY THE SAME ENTITY THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT AUGUST 28TH MEETING.AND WE'LL CONTINUE TOTO TRY TO MAKE DECATUR A BETTER PLACE EVERY DAY.
DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION? OKAY. NOT NEEDING A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM FIVE.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING FOR THE DAY.
IT IS 4:32 AND I WILL CALL THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION MEETING TO AN END.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.